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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 12:10 PM
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Well dyno week has arrived and I am wondering if anyone runs a small nitrous not(75 and under) and how well it works with there boosted setup? I have never used it one this setup but I am thinking I might want to on the dyno.Anyone have any experience with this?
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I've seen several examples of guys using a 50 shot on top of the turbo. The outcome is usually more around 100rwhp than 50... I can't decide if I want to do a CO2 fogger in front of the FMIC or a 50 shot of NO2.
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If you want to cool down the intake charge, run methanol. If you want to spool the turbo quicker or make more horsepower than your turbo can support on it's own, run nitrous. CO2 sprayers are a waste of money.
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If you want to cool down the intake charge, run methanol. If you want to spool the turbo quicker or make more horsepower than your turbo can support on it's own, run nitrous. CO2 sprayers are a waste of money.
Meth is a good option but I just don't like the dependency on a small elec motor that will burn out without warning as I have seen and hear of in many cases. I do like the idea of a pressurized bottle cause that is much more simple and reliable. I would think that NO2 would also cool the intake temps as well as hp increase...?
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im sure a small shot would help, just add enough fuel. id use the smallest jet you have, like a 25 shot if you got it, most people say it doubles the shot size in a FI application
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 93formto98T/A
Meth is a good option but I just don't like the dependency on a small elec motor that will burn out without warning as I have seen and hear of in many cases. I do like the idea of a pressurized bottle cause that is much more simple and reliable. I would think that NO2 would also cool the intake temps as well as hp increase...?
Meth and nitrous come at the motor from two completely opposite sides of the spectrum.

With Nitrous you're adding torque and cylinder pressure, and increasing the motors likeliness to detonate at current timing/boost/octane levels. People talk about the cooling effects of nitrous, but spraying a 75 HP shot into my old motor I was seeing about a 15 degree drop in temps, hardly anything, and it certainly didn't make up for the cylinder pressure it added, in terms of fighting off detonation.

With Methanol you're decreasing inlet temps dramatically, and you're adding more octane to the motor. It's basically like putting oxygenated race gas into it. It'll add a bit of power on it's own, but it quenches pretty much any detonation you're seeing, and allowing you to add in more boost, timing, or compression. People always ask "Oh, should I spray Meth, or add nitrous?" when they serve two completely different purposes.

Sure, the pump in your methanol kit can die, but you think your nitrous kit is simple? I've seen a lot of cars with blown motors from solenoids sticking either open or closed, nitrous isn't bulletproof. And if you're so afraid of your methanol pump dying, shouldn't you not even drive your car because you're afraid of your primary fuel pump dying on you? I've been playing with methanol for 7 or 8 years now, and I've only "heard of" a few horror stories of pumps dying on the internet. I've personally witnessed at least a dozen issues with solenoids and nitrous kits in general in that same time frame.
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evil twins did you have your IAT sensor before or after your nitrous nozzle, those temps dont sound typical, ive placed my hand on a few intake tubes after some passes people have made with a nitrous run and its cold to the touch,
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Well I guess we will see how it does this week! The plan as of now is to spray a 50shot.Hopefully everything goes good.Ill post up #s and vid after dyno day!
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If they serve two different purposes, then can both be installed? Has anyone had meth to cool the intake and fight detonation along with the nitrous to make more power and spool up faster?
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Sure, you can set up a wet nitrous system with a seperate methanol, E85, or combo ( gas/methanol) fuel cell, pump and regulator setup. NOS has recommended jet size combos for most common fuels, and formulas to figure out blends.

E85 would be perfect but it's not widely available.

Jim
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I started with a 50 shot. Works really well.
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