GTOlarry
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Originally Posted by todd4168
First off I love your car. Have you considered running the meth kit with no intercooler on your vortech kit? I had heard recently that it was the way to go. 
Thanks for the compliment. So far so good with with aftercooler and meth. What would be advantages of running without aftercooler...?
Going to drop in a custom cam here pretty soon. Hopefully I will be between 570-580.
I run a 224/230 on a 115. Its a nice cam, has nice chop and really pulls on the upper rpms. I would have rather went with something a little more mild like a 218/224 or something to get more low and midrange since my car is a street car and I primarily stay in that range.
Time for you to go with a forged motor larry
Have you taken it to the track yet?
Time for you to go with a forged motor larry
Have you taken it to the track yet?
Originally Posted by GTOLarry
So far so good with with aftercooler and meth. What would be advantages of running without aftercooler...?
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there's is a half a psi loss thru the AFTERCOOLER so by removing it you aren't going to pick up power, you will lose power cause the compressed air will be hot and less dense.
This 00Turbo T/A guy has no idea what he is talking about.
Running an alcohol system and the aftercooler would keep the iat's really cool.
it is too risky to run solely and alcohol system by itself, they have been known to fail and I know of two people that have destroyed their forged motors.
one goes by mightymouse who frequents this forum.
This 00Turbo T/A guy has no idea what he is talking about.
Running an alcohol system and the aftercooler would keep the iat's really cool.
it is too risky to run solely and alcohol system by itself, they have been known to fail and I know of two people that have destroyed their forged motors.
one goes by mightymouse who frequents this forum.
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Originally Posted by Got Me SOM
there's is a half a psi loss thru the AFTERCOOLER so by removing it you aren't going to pick up power, you will lose power cause the compressed air will be hot and less dense.
This 00Turbo T/A guy has no idea what he is talking about.
Running an alcohol system and the aftercooler would keep the iat's really cool.
it is too risky to run solely and alcohol system by itself, they have been known to fail and I know of two people that have destroyed their forged motors.
one goes by mightymouse who frequents this forum.
This 00Turbo T/A guy has no idea what he is talking about.
Running an alcohol system and the aftercooler would keep the iat's really cool.
it is too risky to run solely and alcohol system by itself, they have been known to fail and I know of two people that have destroyed their forged motors.
one goes by mightymouse who frequents this forum.
I suppose if my car were just used as a dragster I could see the point of eliminating the aftercooler and minimizing volume of air to be compressed, putting no restrictions in the way, having the fewest bends etc.
I think Got Me Som is right about keeping the aftercooler for our cars. I think they would run worse, not better for daily driving.
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Originally Posted by Got Me SOM
there's is a half a psi loss thru the AFTERCOOLER so by removing it you aren't going to pick up power, you will lose power cause the compressed air will be hot and less dense.
This 00Turbo T/A guy has no idea what he is talking about.
Running an alcohol system and the aftercooler would keep the iat's really cool.
it is too risky to run solely and alcohol system by itself, they have been known to fail and I know of two people that have destroyed their forged motors.
one goes by mightymouse who frequents this forum.
This 00Turbo T/A guy has no idea what he is talking about.
Running an alcohol system and the aftercooler would keep the iat's really cool.
it is too risky to run solely and alcohol system by itself, they have been known to fail and I know of two people that have destroyed their forged motors.
one goes by mightymouse who frequents this forum.
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Originally Posted by todd4168
I wonder how many of us ls1 guys are running vortech systems all you see is ati and turbos. Its sorta sad.............
Originally Posted by GTOLarry
Vortech really seems to cater to the Ford crowd and really doesn't do much open marketing to sell their products in general.
the benefit of running alky is it allows you to run a lot more timing that's why most people use it. cooling is a by pass product of it, you'll make more power with more timing.
If your car is tuned is for more timing and you run out of alcohol or whatever, you detonate plain n simple. And that's happened.. Too much risk if you ask me, I have too much money in my setup..
Larry I'd like to know how your tuner has your car setup cause that's the first I've heard it defaulting to a low octane table. That's a good safety to have.
Caveman- Lets not even talk about who's SCARED to run his car. You haven't even sprayed it yet...You just keep polishing it in your garage..
And my car is a street/show car NOT a race car.. 
If your car is tuned is for more timing and you run out of alcohol or whatever, you detonate plain n simple. And that's happened.. Too much risk if you ask me, I have too much money in my setup..
Larry I'd like to know how your tuner has your car setup cause that's the first I've heard it defaulting to a low octane table. That's a good safety to have.
Caveman- Lets not even talk about who's SCARED to run his car. You haven't even sprayed it yet...You just keep polishing it in your garage..
And my car is a street/show car NOT a race car..