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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 05:14 AM
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Great thread! Every STS owner should do this, I am sure the difference is impressive. Bob
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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Wrapped my exhuast today. Big difference. The turbo begins to spool early and it seems to pull harder. Hardest part was wrapping the exhuast - took me about 2 hours and 2 rolls of 2" x 50' header/exhuast wrap.
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 09:39 PM
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Anyone know the difference between ceramic coating and header wrap?

I know people usually don't ceramic coating normal exhaust parts, but in the case of a front mounted turbo kit it would be intrested to know.
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 09:43 PM
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Looks like I need to pick some wrap up before my car goes back together. I would like to feel the before and after effects, but it will be sooo much easier with the exhaust off the car I would think.
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 10:33 PM
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Well, you guys convensed me I just bought a 50' roll of wrap off ebay and some SS zip ties ($32). I all ready have most of a 50' roll, so I should be good

Also going to take the MP T-70 I was trying off, and put the T-60 back on. Just not enough CI to spooled the 70 fast enough, but once it spools (4200 in 1st), look out!! ha,ha

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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by kbracing96
Well, you guys convened me I just bought a 50' roll of wrap off ebay and some SS zip ties ($32). I'll ready have most of a 50' roll, so I should be good

Also going to take the MP T-70 I was trying off, and put the T-60 back on. Just not enough CI to spooled the 70 fast enough, but once it spools (4200 in 1st), look out!! ha,ha
intrested in selling your MP 70? let me know, also what is the turbine side AR
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by kbracing96
Also going to take the MP T-70 I was trying off, and put the T-60 back on. Just not enough CI to spooled the 70 fast enough, but once it spools (4200 in 1st), look out!! ha,ha
put a .68 housing on it and wrap the exhaust, it should spool fast enough then. If it's already a .68 I wouldn't take it off until you wrap the exhaust.
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by kbracing96
Also going to take the MP T-70 I was trying off, and put the T-60 back on. Just not enough CI to spooled the 70 fast enough, but once it spools (4200 in 1st), look out!! ha,ha
I would keep your T-70 on to see how much quick it actually spools up. Cause your trapping more heat in the pipes now and turbo's work off of the expanding gases =more moving volume, you should see more back pressure now which would definitely help with spooling up.
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I have a 68 housing for a mp turbo btw
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 09:46 PM
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It's already got the .68 A/R. Same with the 60. I think it just a little to much for the 4.8. I was hoping that with the bigger compressor, it would spool faster then the 60, but that's not the case, and I get about 1.5-2 psi boost spike on the shift with this turbo. Only got maybe 1 psi with the 60. The 60 spool's quicker and IAT are still nice a cool with the intercooler even at 12 lbs. (never seen anything over 120*) Should spool even quicker with the pipes wrapped. This 60 does have a more aggressive turbine wheel then stock 60's. I think that's most of the difference. Don't know exactly what it is, I bought it to replace the damaged one that came on the turbo when I bought it. It was supposed to be a stock one, but when I got it, it's larger on the OD and a more aggressive on the fin profile. I have pics if you want to see it.


Edit, Oh, and I can't sell it, it's technically not mine I was borrowing it from another project that I'm going to do for a buddy. (406 SB '69 Camaro)
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 01:44 AM
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In my opinion wraping your exhaust will definitly help spool that turbo faster but, I also think by wraping up that pipe is going to self destruct it alot faster than not wraping it. just my 2 cents.
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 10:23 PM
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I just recieved an exhaust wrap kit from summit, = 2 rolls of 2x50' and i got 2 cans of black silicone spray that lenghthens the life of the pipe/tape. im going to coat the exhaust pipe first then wrap it and spray over the wrap a second coat. i might even cover the wrap with some aluminum HVAC tape for even more water resistance.
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by TIM Z
I just recieved an exhaust wrap kit from summit, = 2 rolls of 2x50' and i got 2 cans of black silicone spray that lenghthens the life of the pipe/tape. im going to coat the exhaust pipe first then wrap it and spray over the wrap a second coat. i might even cover the wrap with some aluminum HVAC tape for even more water resistance.
so basically you are going to wrap it....then spray with the silicone spray

I am probably going to do the samething and going to order my parts today but I want to take the cat off and put a fake one up there....of course
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by TIM Z
I just recieved an exhaust wrap kit from summit, = 2 rolls of 2x50' and i got 2 cans of black silicone spray that lenghthens the life of the pipe/tape. im going to coat the exhaust pipe first then wrap it and spray over the wrap a second coat. i might even cover the wrap with some aluminum HVAC tape for even more water resistance.
the HVAC tape adhesive wont stick if you use the silicone spray...use one or the other.
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by smoke20
about 2-3 weeks ago there was a thread about wrapping your exhaust on an STS car to get more hot exhaust to the turbo, i was one of the people who did not grasp the concept that hotter exhaust would make a difference. I WAS WRONG!!! i wrapped my exhaust last night and my car is totally different now, it boosts much quicker and pulls harder, i cant wait until i get it to the track to verify what my butt tells me.
This is the whole reason people stuck to the front mount stuff. Been preaching heat and velocity for a LONG time now. Sure they work. Just not very well.
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 1936FordPU
This is the whole reason people stuck to the front mount stuff. Been preaching heat and velocity for a LONG time now. Sure they work. Just not very well.
Ummmm... I dont know about that opinion. But I agree that people have long talked about wrapping exhaust. The results are just now being truly realized.
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 11:08 AM
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Ummmm... I dont know about that opinion. But I agree that people have long talked about wrapping exhaust. The results are just now being truly realized.
The longer the hotside parts, the less heat and excited energy that gets to the turbine. Thats the Bottom line whether you want to agree or not. Ill build my front mount.
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 1936FordPU
The longer the hotside parts, the less heat and excited energy that gets to the turbine. Thats the Bottom line whether you want to agree or not. Ill build my front mount.
I dont disagree with the basics of physics... but I will disagree with your statement about rearmounts not working very well. Difference of opinion lets say...

Anyways... you do your build... I will do mine... we meet at the track, I will show what a rearmount looks like. Allllllllll the way down the track...
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by longrange4u
I dont disagree with the basics of physics... but I will disagree with your statement about rearmounts not working very well. Difference of opinion lets say...

Anyways... you do your build... I will do mine... we meet at the track, I will show what a rearmount looks like. Allllllllll the way down the track...
go get em longrange4u, this thread is not for haters, we just like front mount guys are learning our system. there are some very fast rear mounts so dont bash -- just kindly leave!!!
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 11:24 AM
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Wheres the silicone spray from?
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