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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 06:34 PM
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Before I got my SS I had a 96 GT Conv. Both cars charged with V-9 Vortech systems. The SS is aftercooled the GT was not. Here is the thing why could I get away with 10psi on the stock Stang internals with nothing more than a Hypertech tune an all the LS1 will stand is 6.5-7psi with a custom dyno tune. Neither car is/was daliy driven. Im just curious my tuner kept my tune safe an stongly urged me not to go down on the pulley size an I read alot on this board an other sites not to go more than 7psi on stock bottom ends. Is this just the way it is or was I pushing my luck in the Stang with a ticking time bomb? Im not complaing though the GT mode 262rwhp an the almighty LS1 made 475
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Before I got my SS I had a 96 GT Conv. Both cars charged with V-9 Vortech systems. The SS is aftercooled the GT was not. Here is the thing why could I get away with 10psi on the stock Stang internals with nothing more than a Hypertech tune an all the LS1 will stand is 6.5-7psi with a custom dyno tune. Neither car is/was daliy driven. Im just curious my tuner kept my tune safe an stongly urged me not to go down on the pulley size an I read alot on this board an other sites not to go more than 7psi on stock bottom ends. Is this just the way it is or was I pushing my luck in the Stang with a ticking time bomb? Im not complaing though the GT mode 262rwhp an the almighty LS1 made 475
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What is the compression on your mustang. I've seen guys run 8.5 lbs with an upgraded fuel system and tune, on the stock bottom.
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 06:40 PM
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I'm pretty sure that the compression was MUCH lower on the stang...That makes a huge difference as far as how much boost you can run...
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 06:53 PM
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as mentioned, static compression makes a big difference. However, there's a ton more to it. The additional displacement and flow of the LS1 heads verses the stock GT make a big difference. Cam stats as well...

some of that should explain the HP difference.

As far as the difference in boost you ran, that depends on the strength of internals and compression ratio
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 07:24 PM
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As I mentioned before it was stock stang internals an what ever the compression is on those cars. What is the stock compression on a 98 LS1? The stang did have 30lb/hr injectors an T-rex feul pump.
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 09:40 PM
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on the stang you more than likely had 9:1 compression the ls1 is what 10:1?
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Think of it more in terms of horse power or flow (CFM). A stock shortblock can only take so much before having to go forged. Boost is not nessesarely (spelling?) a good thing. It is merely a measurement of restriction. If you take an engine such as the LS1 which has superior flow cababilities vs. the 4.6 GT you won't need near as much boost to make the same HP. Assuming both motors could handle the same RWHP level before they let go, An LS1 may only take 8lb's boost to reach 550rwhp where as a GT may require 12-15lb's for the same rwhp level.
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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 03:58 AM
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wait are you saying that you only got 262rwhp running a v-9 vortech at 10psi on your gt? Or is that after you took off the supercharger? j/w
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work out the horsepower per cubic inch, see which is better.

boost is just a measure of intake pressure, nothing more.
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I know a car that ran 12psi on a stock ls1. Boost #'s are for ricers. Imagine the amount of air flow if you put 10psi on a straw, compaired to 10psi on a 2.5" pipe. CFM is the only true measurement that counts.
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Yes 262rwhp on the GT with the charger an a dyno tune IT SUCKED!!!!
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Originally Posted by MIGHTYMOUSE
work out the horsepower per cubic inch, see which is better.

boost is just a measure of intake pressure, nothing more.
thank you. haha, its a common misconception amongst people.
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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 01:10 PM
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I ran 12psi on my stock block, but with alky injection. Pump seized and boom it went.

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i dont have alky injection but I do have a aftercooler.
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96-98 mustang heads SUCK.

I've been in 12# vortech cars, that make less than 300 rwhp.

Plus a hypertech tune on a blown mustang is asking for trouble...

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96-98 mustang heads SUCK.

I've been in 12# vortech cars, that make less than 300 rwhp.

Plus a hypertech tune on a blown mustang is asking for trouble...

Ryan
My thoughts exactly thats why I have an LS1 now.
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