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Old 08-08-2006, 08:35 AM
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Default Can you have too much intercooler?

I realize you probably can have too much intercooler, however if you had two intercoolers, each rated to about 600 hp, and only planned on running 600 hp would this be an issue.

let me state that "effeciency isnt an issue here really". just want to properly cool the air and get it into the motor. I realize these would probably be better suited for making 800+ but im sure they will do their job at 600.

so someone let me know if my thinking is correct or not.

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only thing to be concerned with would be pressure drop.
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Im a little ignorant to pressure drop. does that basically mean if im puttin in (for example) 10 lbs of boost from the turbo into the intercooler, when it comes out of the intercooler it might only be at 8 or 7 lbs because of the drop? is that how it works?
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Originally Posted by Camaro_Zach
Im a little ignorant to pressure drop. does that basically mean if im puttin in (for example) 10 lbs of boost from the turbo into the intercooler, when it comes out of the intercooler it might only be at 8 or 7 lbs because of the drop? is that how it works?
Yep, that is basically what happens. The larger/more intercoolers you have usually the higher the pressure drop. It's a combination of a couple factors.
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I'm seeing about a 2psi pressure drop through my pipes and intercooler (ebay OBX type). I have a 10psi wastegate spring, but I am only seeing 7.5-8lbs of boost at the engine.
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I woudln't trust a WG spring rating. That can vary by 1-2 psi.

never have too much IC!!!



with a turbo you can always reference it off manifold pressure and achieve the same boost!
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Originally Posted by bowtieman81
The larger/more intercoolers you have usually the higher the pressure drop.
Actually, the larger intercooler you have, the lower the pressure drop. Bigger intercooler = more flow area. I installed an intercooler 2.5x bigger than my old one and my pressure drop went from 4 psi down to 1.5 psi.

There is no disadvantage to running a huge intercooler.

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What are the factors to pressure drop? If anything, I thought pressure drop was a good thing when it came to intercoolers and boost... Cool the air -> less pressure...
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I think given the space constraints you have, that you will end up running less intercooler than you would like. What are the dimensions of the ones you are going to use?
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thats what youd think haha, i found a place to tuck 2 12x12.5 inch intercoolers, and get great air flow.
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Originally Posted by Camaro_Zach
thats what youd think haha, i found a place to tuck 2 12x12.5 inch intercoolers, and get great air flow.

How thick?

Actaully, that's one core 12 x 25 .....not big at all....good size for a c5 though.
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3.5 inch thick. i want to do twin, i hate the heating issues that come with a single fmic on a vette.
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Originally Posted by mahhddgtp
If anything, I thought pressure drop was a good thing when it came to intercoolers and boost... Cool the air -> less pressure...
That's not how it works. Pressure drop through the intercooler is a measure of its restriction ONLY, NOT it's cooling ability.

When you add alot of intercooling capacity, the boost pressure does drop some due to the contraction of the air. HOWEVER, the pressure also reduces upstream of the intercooler. This reduction of pressure in the discharge of the compressor results in an increase in flow. If you have too restrictive of an intercooler, you will not get this increase in flow, but you do get cooler air meaning less chance of detonation.

If your turbocharger wastegate is referenced to the intake plenum, then you will not see a change in boost pressure because the turbo will just speed up a little to get back to the desired boost setting.

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i found a place to tuck 2 12x12.5 inch intercoolers, and get great air flow.
Is the spot you found good for airflow to AND from the ICs? Cooling airflow I mean.

Jim
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Originally Posted by DeltaT
Is the spot your found good for airflow to AND from the ICs?

Jim
yes sir, if the guy who i bought the IC's from doesnt suck i can get pics as soon as they are mounted, might take some time though.



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