Forced Induction Superchargers | Turbochargers | Intercoolers

Differances between Methonal and Denatured Alcohol

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 19, 2006 | 04:07 PM
  #1  
00turboT/A's Avatar
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
20 Year Member
iTrader: (61)
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 803
Likes: 0
From: 20 Minutes North of ATL
Default Differances between Methonal and Denatured Alcohol

Like the title says I have seen people running Alcohol. I have seen people running methonol. Is there an advantage over either one???? Is there any differance based on set up???
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2006 | 08:54 PM
  #2  
Mr.Big's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 366
Likes: 0
Default

Very interested in this one as well... Bump...
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2006 | 10:02 PM
  #3  
Blown SS's Avatar
10 Second Club
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 334
Likes: 0
From: J'ville, NC
Default

Meth is alcohol
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2006 | 03:09 AM
  #4  
00turboT/A's Avatar
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
20 Year Member
iTrader: (61)
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 803
Likes: 0
From: 20 Minutes North of ATL
Default

Originally Posted by Blown SS
Meth is alcohol
I know its a type of alcohol. But there is methonal and there is denatured alcohol two seperate things and I have seen people run both. So is there a differance or no
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2006 | 01:06 PM
  #5  
bowtieman81's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (35)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,660
Likes: 0
From: Maryland/Illinois
Default

Perhaps you should worry more about your reputation and character instead of what methanol to use.

My apologies to the mods.
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2006 | 02:24 PM
  #6  
Draco's Avatar
On The Tree
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 151
Likes: 0
Default

Methanol is methyl alcohol. Denatured alcohol is ethanol (ethyl alcohol) with a denaturing chemical added to make it poisonous (often methanol is used to denature).

Methanol has lower energy content per unit mass of fuel then ethanol.

Methanol has a lower stoich AFR then ethanol, which means you must inject greater volumes to achieve stoichiometry.

At stoichiometric AFR ratios, methanol combusts with more energy (BTU's per lb of AIR) then ethanol, which means it has the capability to make more power.

Methanol has a higher latent heat of vaporization, which means it removes more heat from the surrounding air when it evaporates. This allows it to have a greater IAT cooling effect then ethanol.

Methanol has a higher octane rating then ethanol.

In short, Methanol will cool better and provide more power then ethanol, however you must inject it more of it per lb of air due to the low stoich AFR. Methanol is also usually cheaper then denatured alcohol.
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2006 | 03:14 PM
  #7  
00turboT/A's Avatar
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
20 Year Member
iTrader: (61)
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 803
Likes: 0
From: 20 Minutes North of ATL
Default

Originally Posted by bowtieman81
Perhaps you should worry more about your reputation and character instead of what methanol to use.

My apologies to the mods.
My reputation is fine and so is my character. No matter what you do in the world you can't make everyone happy. We had a bad deal on both ends so walk away and move on to the next. Quit posting stupid petty bullshit in my post.
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2006 | 03:14 PM
  #8  
00turboT/A's Avatar
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
20 Year Member
iTrader: (61)
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 803
Likes: 0
From: 20 Minutes North of ATL
Default

Originally Posted by Draco
Methanol is methyl alcohol. Denatured alcohol is ethanol (ethyl alcohol) with a denaturing chemical added to make it poisonous (often methanol is used to denature).

Methanol has lower energy content per unit mass of fuel then ethanol.

Methanol has a lower stoich AFR then ethanol, which means you must inject greater volumes to achieve stoichiometry.

At stoichiometric AFR ratios, methanol combusts with more energy (BTU's per lb of AIR) then ethanol, which means it has the capability to make more power.

Methanol has a higher latent heat of vaporization, which means it removes more heat from the surrounding air when it evaporates. This allows it to have a greater IAT cooling effect then ethanol.

Methanol has a higher octane rating then ethanol.

In short, Methanol will cool better and provide more power then ethanol, however you must inject it more of it per lb of air due to the low stoich AFR. Methanol is also usually cheaper then denatured alcohol.
Thanks man thats exactly what I needed to know.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

6 Gifts Neither Your Dad Nor Grad Will Shove Into the 'Trinket Drawer'

 Brett Foote
story-1

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-6

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-8

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-9

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Aug 20, 2006 | 03:37 PM
  #9  
Mr.Big's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 366
Likes: 0
Default

Thanks Draco...Much appreciated...
Jeremy
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2006 | 06:52 PM
  #10  
cablebandit's Avatar
9 Second Club
20 Year Member
iTrader: (37)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 7,903
Likes: 1
From: Cleveland, OH
Default

wow...easy answer but none of us knew!! There you go Matt...you better switch to ethanol...I got a 5 gallon can of it friday!!!!!
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2006 | 08:41 PM
  #11  
00turboT/A's Avatar
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
20 Year Member
iTrader: (61)
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 803
Likes: 0
From: 20 Minutes North of ATL
Default

Originally Posted by cablebandit
wow...easy answer but none of us knew!! There you go Matt...you better switch to ethanol...I got a 5 gallon can of it friday!!!!!
Good you'll have to bring it to the track and I can get some from you You won't need it to long since you only made 820RWHP
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2006 | 08:44 PM
  #12  
cablebandit's Avatar
9 Second Club
20 Year Member
iTrader: (37)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 7,903
Likes: 1
From: Cleveland, OH
Default

I will bring it Friday of course. Where we going? I wanna hit either paradise...steele....or brainard.
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2006 | 09:04 PM
  #13  
ATTI2D's Avatar
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 137
Likes: 0
From: Lexington KY
Default

I have noticed though..that Meth is more prone to attract moisture.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:47 PM.

story-0
6 Gifts Neither Your Dad Nor Grad Will Shove Into the 'Trinket Drawer'

Don't get dad new socks or a grill brush this year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 14:55:56


VIEW MORE
story-1
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-2
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-3
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-4
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-6
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-9
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE