The Real Price of Forced Induction
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First off... I am not taking anything away from the thought out listing of parts and advice in this thread....BUT, I dont think that the entire car bumper to bumper should be considered the "cost of forced induction"....I mean come on...We might as well start a "Cost of this hobby" thread and REALLY scare people off...
I UNDERSTAND why the rest of the car needs to be up to the power etc, and its worth noting for those that don't realize that, but that applies to all sorts of set-ups not just FI. I mean, one could easily argue that the "real cost of nitrous" can include the Forged Bottoms, Trannys and Clutches, Rear Ends, Chassis Mods, Fuel Systems, Electronic Controls Etc Etc Etc.... Its not just an FI concern when it comes to all those parts.... (I mean, its not like people can walk away going..wow, Im glad I read that, I guess Ill just spray my car and all those parts will be fine)
Carry on....
First off... I am not taking anything away from the thought out listing of parts and advice in this thread....BUT, I dont think that the entire car bumper to bumper should be considered the "cost of forced induction"....I mean come on...We might as well start a "Cost of this hobby" thread and REALLY scare people off...
I UNDERSTAND why the rest of the car needs to be up to the power etc, and its worth noting for those that don't realize that, but that applies to all sorts of set-ups not just FI. I mean, one could easily argue that the "real cost of nitrous" can include the Forged Bottoms, Trannys and Clutches, Rear Ends, Chassis Mods, Fuel Systems, Electronic Controls Etc Etc Etc.... Its not just an FI concern when it comes to all those parts.... (I mean, its not like people can walk away going..wow, Im glad I read that, I guess Ill just spray my car and all those parts will be fine)
Carry on....
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Here's my super cheap 5.3 list so far. I've scored some really good deals in the for sale section on this site. Without that, add another 1000-2000 to the final total.
950.00 - Turbobetics 76 Turbo (new)
200.00 - BOV (new)
250.00 - WG (new)
150.00 - 3" mild steel mandrel bends (new)
300.00 - 4" SS mandrel bends (new)
350.00 - turbosmart eboost (used)
100.00 - autometer remote FP gauge (used)
250.00 - 60lb injectors (used/NIB)
100.00 - fuel rail (used/NIB)
450.00 - compcam, springs, chromo pushrods, titanium retainers (used)
175.00 - 317's (used)
200.00 - harness and computer (used)
600.00 - L33 w/75000 miles
500.00 - misc fittings, gaskets, odds and ends
500.00 - **** I forgot here and/or didn't expect
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5075.00
950.00 - Turbobetics 76 Turbo (new)
200.00 - BOV (new)
250.00 - WG (new)
150.00 - 3" mild steel mandrel bends (new)
300.00 - 4" SS mandrel bends (new)
350.00 - turbosmart eboost (used)
100.00 - autometer remote FP gauge (used)
250.00 - 60lb injectors (used/NIB)
100.00 - fuel rail (used/NIB)
450.00 - compcam, springs, chromo pushrods, titanium retainers (used)
175.00 - 317's (used)
200.00 - harness and computer (used)
600.00 - L33 w/75000 miles
500.00 - misc fittings, gaskets, odds and ends
500.00 - **** I forgot here and/or didn't expect
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5075.00
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here is my list, i hope i have you all beat buhahahahaaaaa!
$1500 Complete LQ-4 Longblock w/ 40K on it
$2000 (Complete turbo kit minus turbo) including forced inductions turbo
manifolds, FMIC with all intercooler piping, tial BOV, tial wastegate...
included downpipe and electric cutouts...also included all hardware
required. ( PURCHASED USED FROM A FELLOW LS1 OWNER)
$1200 BW S80 T6 Turbocharger
$700 72lb Injectors, Twin Walboro FP's
$150 LS6 Cam
$XXX Tune
= $5550 for 600rwhp??? Install being done now, plan is 8-10psi
$1500 Complete LQ-4 Longblock w/ 40K on it
$2000 (Complete turbo kit minus turbo) including forced inductions turbo
manifolds, FMIC with all intercooler piping, tial BOV, tial wastegate...
included downpipe and electric cutouts...also included all hardware
required. ( PURCHASED USED FROM A FELLOW LS1 OWNER)
$1200 BW S80 T6 Turbocharger
$700 72lb Injectors, Twin Walboro FP's
$150 LS6 Cam
$XXX Tune
= $5550 for 600rwhp??? Install being done now, plan is 8-10psi
#126
looking at forced induction prices.....
Seems like alot of money spent here...why not stick with a complete kit like the one from Edelbrock? Seems like the kit is complete and around 6k, with alot of help getting it done. Basically have a z06 from a ls3 motor when your done....or is it that this isn't enough power? This will be my plan when I attemp a forced induction system.
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Nice write up. I've sunk over $40K into mine, not including what I paid for the truck. I thought of all the possible issues and problems I might have down the road. I didn't want to build a 6000# hand granade. Many people build a strong motor but the vehicle can't handle the power. I have $20K in the motor, $10K in the turbo related stuff and over $10k in beefing up the driveline. There are still issues even when looking this far into the future. Turbos generate a lot of heat, so ceramic coating and wrapping the exhaust and wrapping all wires is a must. Much of the electronics associated with todays cars will need to be relocated, away from the turbos and exhaust. Heat shield everything. These all add up to more money...none of which was included in my prices I've listed here.
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I just finished by build, cam, heads, header, intake, 92mm TBI. I now find myself not hooking up. So tires, wheels and a Strange 12 bolt rear end are next. This should get me out of the hole. But would like to try a prochager too. I am at 482 RWHP now and would like another 150 or so. Any suggestions.
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Man this list has me a little worried about my planned setup, but really I'm going to be sticking to 4-5psi for quite some time. Picking up a bare bones used STS kit for $2000. Gonna spend another $5-600 on injectors and fuel pump (used), a-pillar, b/v gauge, A/F gauge, and call it a day for a little bit. Probably looking around $3000 for the time being. Tune is already paid for. The beautiful part about turbocharging seems to be you can have the power you want, when you want it. Some minor wastegate adjustments and away you go!
Realistically, at 4psi is there any high percentage chances of major failures before I can get new pushrods, timing chain, valve springs, and a clutch together and maybe bump it up to 7? Probably talking around 420-450rwhp from what I've seen other people at 4-5psi making.
Realistically, at 4psi is there any high percentage chances of major failures before I can get new pushrods, timing chain, valve springs, and a clutch together and maybe bump it up to 7? Probably talking around 420-450rwhp from what I've seen other people at 4-5psi making.
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Wow- nice job Josh (co-owner of Lashway Motorsports). Most viewed FI sticky to date!
If anyone needs blowers, turbos, kits, etc- we sell almost any part/kit you can imagine! Just PM us for details and or questions/tech support.
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If anyone needs blowers, turbos, kits, etc- we sell almost any part/kit you can imagine! Just PM us for details and or questions/tech support.
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does anyone wanna buy a 76mm turbonetics. it has never been put on my car. i am in iraq rite now and i figured i wanna go all motor instead of the forced induction route. i will take 900. paid 950 for it. i can get u all of the specs if u need. pm me for details and pics