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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 01:26 PM
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Yeah the S series is T6 though and it will make BIG power.
What kind of increased lag is there with say a S76 over a T76?
I don't want the lag of a T88 sized turbo but I want more flow/power potential then a T76.
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 01:41 PM
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An S76 will spool around 3600-3800 of course alot depends on the compression, cam, head flow...etc..etc.
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DrTurbo
An S76 will spool around 3600-3800 of course alot depends on the compression, cam, head flow...etc..etc.
The comp ratio is 8.5:1, handfinished AFR 225 heads, LS1speed turbo cam---
225/225, 581/581, 113lsa. Looking for 700rwhp pump, 800+rwhp race gas.
Would you prefer the S76 or S78 for this setup...

Thanks for your input by the way and sorry to jack the thread kinda.
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 02:41 PM
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I would go with the S76 for that. Spool nicely and make big power with that setup. I don't see 800rwhp being a problem.
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by DrTurbo
I would go with the S76 for that. Spool nicely and make big power with that setup. I don't see 800rwhp being a problem.
Thanks alot for your help...I will likely be calling you guys soon to order one.
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TURBO383WS6
ok, you guys have definately got me worried now. i've got a 9.1:1 compression 383 LT1 w/ a PT76GTS.
You don't have anything to worry about. If the T76GTS can make 990 rwhp with 355 cid, I really doubt an extra 28 cid is going to reduce the capability much. Also note that they're talking about the smaller Q-trim exhaust (900 hp limit) as opposed to your S-trim (1100+ hp limit).

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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 08:48 PM
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I wonder how a Q-trim vs a GTQ would be?? I hear that the GTQ flows much better and then the standard Q, plus also T-netics has a new turbine wheel that is suppose to be between the GTQ and GTS turbine wheel, wonder how that wheel does.
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Stupid Boost
I wonder how a Q-trim vs a GTQ would be?? I hear that the GTQ flows much better and then the standard Q, plus also T-netics has a new turbine wheel that is suppose to be between the GTQ and GTS turbine wheel, wonder how that wheel does.
Why not just go straight to the GTS?
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 09:32 PM
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Well tonight was the first time I really got in the car hard with new setup. Man it pulls really hard. I took one of my friends for a ride. He has a turbo Hybussa making 500 hp to ground he was very impressed. Only got on it threw 3rd gear. I am planning on taking it to the track this weekend. I still have factory 10 bolt so it's going to be street tires for me. We only have 1000 ft track here but I am expecting close to 120 mph. I am thinking of going with some sort of 88 turbo but not sure which one.
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Originally Posted by engineermike
Why not just go straight to the GTS?
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by engineermike
You don't have anything to worry about. If the T76GTS can make 990 rwhp with 355 cid, I really doubt an extra 28 cid is going to reduce the capability much. Also note that they're talking about the smaller Q-trim exhaust (900 hp limit) as opposed to your S-trim (1100+ hp limit).

Mike
The quoted numbers I believe were 950rwhp @ 24psi, but nobody has come close to that # on any of the boards (LSX or LTX), so we should be careful by throwing around the big numbers (so people dont feel let down when they dont come close). The Q trim is rated for 975fwhp versus the GTS 1100fwhp.

Mike, you should see if yould could squeeze a T4 T88 into your kit (probably need some minor rework)... I bet you could see +150rwhp over what you make now.
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by RealQuick
The quoted numbers I believe were 950rwhp @ 24psi, but nobody has come close to that # on any of the boards (LSX or LTX), so we should be careful by throwing around the big numbers (so people dont feel let down when they dont come close). The Q trim is rated for 975fwhp versus the GTS 1100fwhp.
He actually made 987 rwhp with the wastegate blocked off and reportedly 24 psi. He switched to a T88 and it only made 1012 rwhp at a similar boost level.

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Mike, you should see if yould could squeeze a T4 T88 into your kit (probably need some minor rework)... I bet you could see +150rwhp over what you make now.
Absolutely no way with my layout. The T76GTS is crammed in there with only 1/2" clearance around the exhaust housing. I'm considering upgrading to the T80GTS since it's the same external dimensions, though.
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 12:49 PM
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Yes that LT1 made 987rwhp peak, but could not hold it. It would spike up then drop off. So realistically it probably was making low 900's-high 800's as an average. Also running a turbo without a wastegate is not the best thing for it if your thinking longevity.....lol
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 12:50 PM
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Also MM made over 900rwhp out of a Turbonetics 76 on his setup I believe. So it has been done....just most people won't push their cars that hard.
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DrTurbo
Also MM made over 900rwhp out of a Turbonetics 76 on his setup I believe. So it has been done....just most people won't push their cars that hard.
Think he made 85X on that one....
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My 76GTQ, according to compressor maps, will be high up there in the efficiency range at 14,15 psi... Just right for me for maximum spool/powerband. But I have 346 cubes... I can't imagine how hard the turbo would be pushed with EVEN MORE displacement. Just my $0.02

For that displacement, it should've have been AT LEAST a 76GTS (will flow more). Can something bigger fit on that kit?

76GTS is ideal on a 346 on pump (~15psi), with a little room for a race gas tune (15 psi+). My 76GTQ will be no good for race gas/high boost over 15 psi on 346 cubes. Yours is on a 402. That turbo MIGHT be getting choked, but I am not an expert. Good luck man. 600+ rwhp is 600 rwhp+ Sounds good for now, especially on the stock 10-bolt.
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My old motor was forged 347 and it 18 psi of boost on it. Yes I can put bigger turbo on this setup. Just need to modify the frame rail for clearance. With current setup there is no lagg. Spools very quickly.
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Dr Turbo what kind of back preasure issues would I have with the S88?
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What kind of exhaust preasure should I find before the turbo? I am going to check it this weekend.
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 02SSLE
What kind of exhaust preasure should I find before the turbo? I am going to check it this weekend.
With a T76GTS and short 3.5" downpipe on 377 cid, we got 26 psi backpressure at 18 psi boost. On my T76GTS and 3" downpipe with a muffler on 383 cid, I got 34 psi backpressure at 18 psi. With the wrong muffler, I had as much as 48 psi backpressure at 18 psi.

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