dart pro 1 turbo set up
dart pro 1 turbo set up im posting here due to the set up being a turbo set up. the dart heads out the box would they need to be ported? How much power can those heads make out the box with a turbo set up Pt91 370ci set up. Im looking for 1k at the wheels, can those heads do it or do i have to have them ported and I dont hear nothing about extrude hone. what happen to that, seem like that was a good process.
extrude honing is ridiculously expensive...I recently priced having some cast manifolds and exhaust housings done and they wanted $1250 and that did not include shipping back and forth...
hey mighty mouse whats up. well i wanna make as much power at a lower boost as possible. well i already have the motor 370ci so i want some heads that can flow a hella lot so i dont have to turn up the boost to force the air though. GUess my question now would be get the darts and put the rest of the money into something else than buying the afr or etp heads.
hey phate what heads are you running and what power level your at just wandering
hey phate what heads are you running and what power level your at just wandering
Originally Posted by bumpin_records
hey mighty mouse whats up. well i wanna make as much power at a lower boost as possible. well i already have the motor 370ci so i want some heads that can flow a hella lot so i dont have to turn up the boost to force the air though.
i consider boost psi a return on investment.
say now im making 1000 at 23psi or i could spend another 5k on severe headwork and make 1000 at 15psi. what did i gain other than the heads will likely give poorer low rpm performance and worse mileage.
discuss
Originally Posted by MIGHTYMOUSE
say now im making 1000 at 23psi or i could spend another 5k on severe headwork and make 1000 at 15psi. what did i gain other than the heads will likely give poorer low rpm performance and worse mileage.
discuss
discuss
Trending Topics
LS1 Tech Stories
The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them
Pouria Savadkouei
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph
Verdad Gallardo
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked
Pouria Savadkouei
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP
Verdad Gallardo
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes
Verdad Gallardo
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power
Verdad Gallardo
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die
Verdad Gallardo
Intake temps will be lower at 15psi, and it will scare you when you take it to 23psi!!!!!!
Kurt
Kurt
Originally Posted by MIGHTYMOUSE
to each their own but i don't understand why?
i consider boost psi a return on investment.
say now im making 1000 at 23psi or i could spend another 5k on severe headwork and make 1000 at 15psi. what did i gain other than the heads will likely give poorer low rpm performance and worse mileage.
discuss
i consider boost psi a return on investment.
say now im making 1000 at 23psi or i could spend another 5k on severe headwork and make 1000 at 15psi. what did i gain other than the heads will likely give poorer low rpm performance and worse mileage.
discuss
I am running stock ported OLD castings. Engine made 1100 on the engine dyno at W2W @ 20psi...I have since switched cams on W2Ws recommendation...car should be on the dyno soon. Should make 1000rwhp no problem.
Originally Posted by 427
Intake temps will be lower at 15psi, and it will scare you when you take it to 23psi!!!!!!
Kurt
Kurt
and since he is building for 1000rwhp, i assume he is not shooting for more than that after x amount of time.
real quick.. i need more info on longevity? engine makes 1000hp either way = same cylinder pressure no?
I'd go with aftermarket heads for 1000rwhp, one value is having better clamping over stock heads. I think KP is running unported Dart heads. I'm running unported AllPro heads.
well i just got the engine back and i do have the money for the darts right now. Im gonna call speed inc tomorrow. I just wanted to know if i get the dart heads i dont have to dump a lot of money in them vs. just buying some afr or etp. I seen a set of etp's and i was very impressed with the cnc ports. Are the darts cnc ported? Mighty mouse i do see a lot of peeps runnins stock ported heads making some good numbers. Hell i have a set of 317's sitting next to the car right now but i dont mind paying for the darts if they donna do the job i want and that is hitting 1000 at the wheels. If you all say they will out the box im gonna get em this week. Now on a nother note. intakes i see guys running 8.50 with ls6 why buy a carb intake?
John hows the flow numbers on those allpro heads did you have to have any work done to them
John hows the flow numbers on those allpro heads did you have to have any work done to them
Originally Posted by MIGHTYMOUSE
real quick.. i need more info on longevity? engine makes 1000hp either way = same cylinder pressure no?
Boost is not "free" it just seems that way because its easy to turn up. Every time something in your system needs to work harder, something else needs to make up for it. The 1000hp dyno shot could be done with Dart 225's no doubt.
The higher boost engine will run more heat in the intake and ex. This will cause more chance of failure sooner, but how much sooner is a mystery.
Kurt
The higher boost engine will run more heat in the intake and ex. This will cause more chance of failure sooner, but how much sooner is a mystery.
Kurt
Originally Posted by MIGHTYMOUSE
they would be lower for a given combination, but if you size the intercooler appropriate for the application it could be around the same. (20% bigger etc)
and since he is building for 1000rwhp, i assume he is not shooting for more than that after x amount of time.
real quick.. i need more info on longevity? engine makes 1000hp either way = same cylinder pressure no?
and since he is building for 1000rwhp, i assume he is not shooting for more than that after x amount of time.
real quick.. i need more info on longevity? engine makes 1000hp either way = same cylinder pressure no?
11 Second Club
iTrader: (20)
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,684
Likes: 3
From: Albuquerque NM - The Land of 8000ft DA
I agree, I don't know why in the world you would want to make the system work harder than is has too. I guess for bragging rights? To be cool?
I reasonably ported set of heads doesn't cost a fortune, you're in the right frame of mind bumpin.
I reasonably ported set of heads doesn't cost a fortune, you're in the right frame of mind bumpin.
well im gonna go for the dart heads. A lot of people are stuck on the term boost. Oh im running 30lbs of boost like the import guys. well i wanna say i made 1k at 15lbs of boost. So you can say im stuck on cfm's , I want as much flow as possible. I may not be right but i went with a 370ci cause i wanted a big bore with not a big stroke. i can spin it higher if i need to hopefully i dont. but do anyone have any imput on the intake theory. ls6 vs carb intake?
Originally Posted by bumpin_records
but do anyone have any imput on the intake theory. ls6 vs carb intake?
https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-induction/605899-reason-switching-carb-intake.html
https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-induction/610806-what-intake-manifold.html
https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-induction/608508-victor-jr-efi-intake-346-d1-worth.html