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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 02:02 AM
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Default Stock block done!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Car drove fine on the way home from work. Then the car wouldn't start later the same night and the starter was making a weird whining sound. So after inspection I was happy to notice that the bolts just came loose, and the starter was kinda hangin' there. Then After a little closer look I realized that the flanges/moldings on the block where the 2 starter bolts bolt to actually snapped off. WTF

I think I was boostin so hard even the starter was doin' 10 psi

Am I fucked and need a new block or would this be safe to weld and re-enforce somehow?



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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 02:18 AM
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Your pretty well screwed. You can try getting it welded on, but it will be a ticking time bomb if it even starts the car once. Even with a top notch welder i would never trust it.
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by BIG BAD BLACKSS
Your pretty well screwed. You can try getting it welded on, but it will be a ticking time bomb if it even starts the car once. Even with a top notch welder i would never trust it.
Thats pretty much the consensus I've been getting.......damnit

Maybe this is a godsend for a nice forged block! I might need to start a new thread for suggestions on a engine block and rotating assembly to maximize my T76
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 03:53 AM
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wow never seen that..Yeah it would be tuff to weld the alum block good enough for it to work right again.Sux that the stock block went that way opposed to actual motor failure
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 04:15 AM
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I have seen plenty of blocks welded up and working fine. A guy down here in southern Indiana welds up Steve Kinsers (World Of Out Laws) aluminum blocks all the time hell he has welded up main cracks all the time with no ill affects. It is worth looking into unless you have the money for a new block.
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 04:48 AM
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i've seen that happen too. we actually have block sitting here with the exact same thing we decided against it though.
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 07:21 AM
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I was expecting to see #7 piston gone, not that!
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 09:14 AM
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Thats crazy because this happened to me b4 I went away to college and now my car has been sitting in my parents driveway since august. I couldn't believe this happened when I checked to see what was going on. I've been told that I will need a new block. This really sucks when you don't have the cash.
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 09:50 AM
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weld it up .... ill try and find the picture later i have of a top fuel motor laying on the ground and all you can see is about 3x3" squares that were busted out then welded back in like im talking this things been stitched all over and still goin strong.... jesus all it does it hold the starter on.........whats the worst that happens you get it welded and then it breaks again ???
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by tirefryin_s10
weld it up .... ill try and find the picture later i have of a top fuel motor laying on the ground and all you can see is about 3x3" squares that were busted out then welded back in like im talking this things been stitched all over and still goin strong.... jesus all it does it hold the starter on.........whats the worst that happens you get it welded and then it breaks again ???

Exactly! So you weld it, worst case scenario it breaks. Same boat you're in now. I've seen aluminum heads welded and hold stupid boost, I assure you the starter sees less stress.
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 11:18 AM
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question i have is...what made all this extra stress to cause that break off?
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 11:44 AM
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I've seen that exact thing with identical looking piece about 3 times.

All three tig welded up just fine and never had another problem.

the weld is stronger then the block. On two of them, we did it with the motor still in the car, just taking out the headers/exhaust/starter and it was no problem
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 01:09 PM
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Weld that mother.

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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 02:44 PM
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Build a nice iron block 370. Heck go with a stock cube LS2 with good internals. Now is the time. Your block said so....
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 02:45 PM
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I had two motor mounts on a CBR900 stunt bike welded. They had broken off after multiple crashes. I never had another problem after they were welded and that bike took a serious beating getting dropped once or twice every time I rode. Weld it up.
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 02:55 PM
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Weld it up... like what was said... whats the worst that could happen? It dosent start?
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 10:01 AM
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Hydraulic'd the block? That doesn't just happen.
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 10:12 AM
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weld it up
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 10:37 AM
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what the hell would cause that to happen??
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 11:12 AM
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I would have it welded up and drill it so you can heli coli so there are new threads. When you reinstall the strater torque the bolts according to torque specs and you should be fine! Good Luck!
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