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Old Jun 17, 2007 | 11:44 PM
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Old Jun 17, 2007 | 11:57 PM
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Check out some of the 6-speed vipers. The fastest 6-speed IRS car is pushin 1500hp.
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Old Jun 17, 2007 | 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by camaroextra
Check out some of the 6-speed vipers. The fastest 6-speed IRS car is pushin 1500hp.
They don't hook on the street either

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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ninetres
Waiting.
Well here's 870rwhp with nittos on a regular street and boost ramped in slowly with an Innovative MSBC.

www.ls1speed.com/movies/jimmay.WMV

You can see as the car passes by it is not even black tracking the ground.

With MT et street radials my car would barely spin in 1st and dead hook 2nd and up on a decent road.

New combination will be 1,300++ rwhp and it will remain a 6-speed. If boost is brought in progressively I don't see why it couldn't be putting full power to the ground by 4th gear.
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by INTMD8
Well here's 870rwhp with nittos on a regular street and boost ramped in slowly with an Innovative MSBC.

www.ls1speed.com/movies/jimmay.WMV

You can see as the car passes by it is not even black tracking the ground.

With MT et street radials my car would barely spin in 1st and dead hook 2nd and up on a decent road.

New combination will be 1,300++ rwhp and it will remain a 6-speed. If boost is brought in progressively I don't see why it couldn't be putting full power to the ground by 4th gear.
What gear was that fly by in?
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 05:44 AM
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Thanks everybody. Those of you saying I will never hook on the street...I'm not exactly into street racing with the car as it is, much less with 1,000 hp. Hooking on the street is not a concern of mine.

INTMD8: What driveshaft & rear are you running?
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 07:15 AM
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what are you looking to gain from it? wont be that rewarding if you wont be street racing or drag racing heavily. if you just want to get to highway speed and then blow the tires off, save a lot of money and just buy regular tires.

i never got to run mine turned up other than the dyno

it would have saved me some time and money to invest in a g force trans up front.

with the auto i have all ready reduced my drive to the track and drive home ET by over a second w/ the same power level.
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 00TurboT/A
700RWHP and 1000RWHP all feels the same on street because all you going to do is spin if its a street car. Just my opinion based on experiance and a couple of freinds turbo f-body's as well.
not true, world of difference, even between 800 to 1000 feels insane... 800 feels like a child's toy


if you watch my little vid here:

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you can see how it is on the low end of that range, on the street with a 6 speed.... I had some nitto 315 DR's on this vid, they didn't hook very well as you can see, but I picked up some BFG DR's 315 that hooked a lot better.

the car in this setting pulled very strong and felt good, but at 1000.... it would borderline scare me... and not from spin, but from PULLLLLL tripple digits in the blink of an eye, and still PULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLIng like there is no end

oh yea, stock T56, spec 5 clutch... thats simple enough but no hard launches at the track Mostly highway runs.

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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ninetres
Hooking 2nd gear w/ 1k hp on the dirty street...........I'd believe that when I see it.
Are you saying it can't be done just because you couldnt do it?

When I drove 2000 tran zam's 893whp TA, I brake boosted 2nd gear @ 45mph and hooked(quickly rolled into the throttle) on BFG DR's.
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 03:52 PM
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Well on my 335 Nittos I cant get full traction until the top of third.. I am no where near 1000rwhp. I dont see how the rest are hooking b4 that. Around here if you are spinning then you are losing. I dont have a boost by gear setup, but I also do not floor my car. Just rolling into it will get tire spin.. No fun if you are spinning if you ask me..
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 05:07 PM
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I am running 285/35/18 Nitto drag radials and I can hook my car at any rpm in third gear and up.
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by speedracer5532
I am running 285/35/18 Nitto drag radials and I can hook my car at any rpm in third gear and up.
Well the F-bodies must respond differently to power. Hell when I had my old Camaro SS with just the 408ci NA and 305 Nittos I could not hook up until the top of 2nd with 565rwhp.. Are you lowering your tire pressure and using VHT?
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by lilbuddy1587
Are you saying it can't be done just because you couldnt do it?

When I drove 2000 tran zam's 893whp TA, I brake boosted 2nd gear @ 45mph and hooked(quickly rolled into the throttle) on BFG DR's.
I saw a video or two of his car and thought I remembered something about spinning. Also remember that in his posts. He had a big laggy turbo so that helps too.

Brake boosting a 893 whp car at 45mph on the street.....I need to be in the driver's seat myself to believe it. Not saying you're lying....just need to see it to believe it kinda thing.
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 06:17 PM
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i have a six speed with a mcloud twin disc and a dennys driveshafts ,driveshaft six speed was done buy t56 rebuilds wouldnt trade it for an auto for anything just use drag radials and slow down turbo spool with a boost controller. the car makes 1162 hp at 23 lbs and drives great on the street

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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 06:22 PM
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If you want a manual, just do it...

Its a personal choice, different people want different things for their car.

I know that as long as I have 2 legs, and I am fit and able, my car will always be manual.

An auto may go faster over the 1/4, but that isnt what my car is about. Its plain and simple, a car I can enjoy driving everywhere. Drag strip, road, race track if I decide to go there etc.

Although I do enjoy my DD Volvo estate thats an auto

As for traction...I know that on normal road tyres, I can easily smoke the tyres to about 140mph....and pretty sure I dont have anywhere near 1000rwhp.
Even at a poor dragstrip in March, with MT DR's, I was still spinning the tyres with ease to about 120, all way through 3rd gear.

Im currently using a Cryo'd T56, with 30T ops. Although I did run a totally stock T56 for well over a year, with no problems whatsoever, and is what I run my fastest times with.

If you arent overly abusive, and can drive a clutch properly, then a T56 setup can work very well.
It may not be the fastest, but I enjoy it, and it will be more economical than an auto, and in most cases, have much higher top end potential.
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by oufan2929
My vette will soon be right at 1k rwhp. Just a normal built up tranny and twin disk mcleod. All of the big 1,200-1,500rwhp vipers run the same clutch, so that should tell you what clutch to run! Just don't miss gears and you'll be fine. And w/that much power, you don't need to power shift the car to go fast, the hp will get you there plenty quick. And yes, once you learn how to drive the car, it is streetable. It's just a different ball game and feathering is an art you will/should soon learn!
Which clutch are you talking about the vipers using? Mcleod twin disk i would think?
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 06:54 PM
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I'm in the process of building a turbo lsx motor in my 2000 z-28, going 6 speed because it's a street car and I will be driving the car over long distances...the t-56 is built by finishline and the clutch is a spec twin disc stage 4, it will be close to the 1K mark for rwhp...I put on bogarts and 325/15 mt drag radials, they are 28" tall and 13 inches wide, I hope it will hook some....
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 07:03 PM
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I talked to bogart and they told me not to use their wheels for the street what so ever because they will bend when you hit a bump.
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by STP
I talked to bogart and they told me not to use their wheels for the street what so ever because they will bend when you hit a bump.
I'm going to watchout for the pot holes...
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 03:26 AM
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You guys saying no no no, don't do it, can't do it. I'm going to do it. Have some imagination. You guys that have done it, thanks for the advice and words of encouragement. I'll definitely start a build thread when I get this project off the ground.

MightyMouse: As far as what I'm looking to gain from this project, because I'm not planning to compete seriously with it..and def. not street racing it, the satisfaction of building what most people won't and enjoying it without having to prove anything to anyone.
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