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Old 11-15-2007, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by NA$TY-TA
Quicken if this gets way off track like your threads normally do it will be closed real quick.
I just love quicken threads
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Well, lets hope some ******** doesn't take it off track, like they usually do. Things get off track when people post, "your stupid", "it can't be done", "what the hell do you want to do that for"...etc, etc, etc. As long as they stay out of here or post comments with some substance it'll be just fine.

This would be a 100% street car and A/C is a must. Would a 101 or 106 fit with the OFI kit or any other kit and keep A/C?

It would have an auto tranny, probably 4L80E or better.


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THESE 101-106 AIN'T SMALL-NOT SAYING IT WON'T FIT OR CAN BE MADE TO FIT-TAKE THAT IN MIND-

also from what i know and see in australia only-these 4l80e are just not good at these power levels we think of- 800-900 rwhp as lasted but not for long-

in saying that i dont know how well u guys build these 4l80 e in the us-

these monster s91-95 101-106 need a decent auto because these turbo's will create serious hp if everything is in order -so the ? to u is 4l80 e good enough for u-

p.s u know the drill- u got cash? if yes anything can fit at a cost-surely-
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Originally Posted by Gordon0652
This could possible be a 2000hp project!!!
Hope someone is really doing this!
Not trying to steal this thread but i am with smaller cubes-racing only-

methanol-

have most of the stuff-wont be ready till next june'july 08

fingers cross-
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im no fi guy, but looking at the sheer size of those thumper turbos, i would have to think youd need something like sx70's or s70/76 just to fit it all.
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hey quickin. hows the nitrous setup going??

have yu seen this thread? https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-induction/814214-c5-single-front-mount-91mm-turbo-kit-done-pics.html

i know its on a vette but how about something like that?? would be pretty cool!

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just had another thought. how about a quad turbo?? now before you all go 'whats the point?' im just thinking about a0 getting enough airflow and b) what it would look like as a show car.

you could run two turbos out front and two down low the manifolds would be two hard to do. just pair the runners of and mate to the turbos. a guys on the corvette forum is looking to have a go at it on his C4 vette.

just an idea.

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Quicken -I thought your car is already at the shop getting the 1500rwhp treatment?
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the 4l80e wont be a limiting factor... it will never hook anyway. thats a completely unusable amount of power in a street car. ask inspector12, and he's about 400-500 shy of where that setup should be....
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Quicken -I thought your car is already at the shop getting the 1500rwhp treatment?
I thought it was going to be a twin or single turbo BBC?
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Originally Posted by kickassT/A
the 4l80e wont be a limiting factor... it will never hook anyway. thats a completely unusable amount of power in a street car. ask inspector12, and he's about 400-500 shy of where that setup should be....
time for someone to build a 4WD launch system then.

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Tell ya what......can someone just tell me what single turbo kit, if there is one, will fit in the WS6 and be big enough to support and efficiently feed a 427ci? Forget the 454ci, no need to be that big. My engine builder will take care of the rest.

If noone knows I'll delete the thread.


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None will, there is no off the shelf 98-101mm turbo kit for our cars.

From a packaging standpoint you'd have to go twins to try to save AC.

The bigger turbos are over a foot in height and diameter.
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Let her buck man, I say go twins on a 427 would be killer. Since its a street car and not all out race don't worry about the size of the turbo's too much b/c you won't be maxing them out anyways. Either way it will be a monster on the street and look hella cool under the hood
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the best build you could probably do with that many cubes would to have OFIs kit with the S91 (this is a gt42 framed turbo) the S95 is allot bigger as its a thumper frame.
427cubes might put it just on the edge of the efficiency range, though i think 370-400 cubes would be better. you could probably talk to Jose or Dr. Turbo to find what cubes would better fit this turbo. YOu might be able to get a thumper size turbo if you move allot of stuff and get rid of things, but you said you didnt want to do that.

basically this build is a hey look at me my car has a big **** car, which isnt really purpose built for speed, just for show, so you could just lie to people how much cubes and power it makes, cause i doubt you'll ever use anything close to the power you stated.
if you were serious about a viscous streetcar you could just do a 400 cubes w2w lsx, s91, BS3, OFI kit, 6 bolt heads, and a killer fuel system with a 4l80e and run mid eights.
its that "easy"
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To be real honest we are not even selling the S95 anymore. Our customers just plain can not fit them. They are HUGE. They are almost 2" larger then even a 106 externally. If you can wait till after Christmas or so our new mini-thumpers will be out. We have the new ETT wheels all the way up to 100mm and all packaged around the size of a GT55. Compact and the ETT 100mm wheel will flow close to a 106mm GT-TV wheel, plus the unit will spool almost 700-900rpms faster as well.

Testing so far has been un-real. Our ETT 94mm made 40rwhp then a T101 and spool 800rpms sooner.

I personally would go with a 400ci engine or so and probably the FI94X or FI98X. The FI100X would probably be a little overkill for a street car.

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the best build you could probably do with that many cubes would to have OFIs kit with the S91 (this is a gt42 framed turbo) the S95 is allot bigger as its a thumper frame.
427cubes might put it just on the edge of the efficiency range, though i think 370-400 cubes would be better. you could probably talk to Jose or Dr. Turbo to find what cubes would better fit this turbo. YOu might be able to get a thumper size turbo if you move allot of stuff and get rid of things, but you said you didnt want to do that.

basically this build is a hey look at me my car has a big **** car, which isnt really purpose built for speed, just for show, so you could just lie to people how much cubes and power it makes, cause i doubt you'll ever use anything close to the power you stated.
if you were serious about a viscous streetcar you could just do a 400 cubes w2w lsx, s91, BS3, OFI kit, 6 bolt heads, and a killer fuel system with a 4l80e and run mid eights.
its that "easy"
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I heard from a little birdy you might be testing one of these also.....lol. Your other unit is done and flow tested. I think they will be calling you this upcoming week. We made some changes to the design to help spool up. These big turbine wheels are tough to get spooled....lol. The newer unit (FI@@X units) are going to be awesome!!!! But right now delays are killing us from the casting foundry that makes the center section. The backlog is growing daily.....
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Originally Posted by DrTurbo
To be real honest we are not even selling the S95 anymore. Our customers just plain can not fit them. They are HUGE. They are almost 2" larger then even a 106 externally. If you can wait till after Christmas or so our new mini-thumpers will be out. We have the new ETT wheels all the way up to 100mm and all packaged around the size of a GT55. Compact and the ETT 100mm wheel will flow close to a 106mm GT-TV wheel, plus the unit will spool almost 700-900rpms faster as well.

Testing so far has been un-real. Our ETT 94mm made 40rwhp then a T101 and spool 800rpms sooner.

I personally would go with a 400ci engine or so and probably the FI94X or FI98X. The FI100X would probably be a little overkill for a street car.
can you post compressor housing dimensions on this? I currently have fitted a gt47 but its tight. Based on the dimensions listed on garrett's site, the gt55 looks to be roughly the same size as a 47 externally...

waiting on the posting of some 08 drag radial race rules...but a 98 would be pretty sweet
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Quickin why not do a clean twin turbo with a ~T80 or similar mounted in each front corner?

Turbos would be highly visible as would the hot/cold plumbing for nice appearance at shows. You'd need to relocate a bunch of stuff (Battery, evap, wiring, alt etc) but fans, aftermarket rad, AC should be able to stay in tact.

There is something beautful and symmetric about a nice twin turbo in each corner of a fourth gen
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I would lean toward twins, but if you want a single, there are custom turbos out there in the 12xmm range that also might suit you. It is no larger than a traditional garrett 106 and makes enough power to run 197mph in a 3300# car on DR's....it had more in it.
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