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Old 11-16-2007, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Fireball
can you post compressor housing dimensions on this? I currently have fitted a gt47 but its tight. Based on the dimensions listed on garrett's site, the gt55 looks to be roughly the same size as a 47 externally...

waiting on the posting of some 08 drag radial race rules...but a 98 would be pretty sweet

The comp cover will be nearly indentical in size. Should fit in the same location. The exhaust housing is a touch larger though.
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Yeah if I could source a 98mm that was dimensionally not much larger than my GT47-88 I'd be very interested too, I'd make the switch to a BW/Schwitzer turbo.
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Originally Posted by Houdini
I hope my sarcasm detector took a crap... otherwise, let the man spend his money the way he likes!

If he wants a 1500rwhp streetcar with AC and a giant slurpy holder, than who the hell are you to tell him he's wrong in wanting such a car.

He wants options on reaching his goals... not opinions on whether you think it's a good goal to have!!

Quickin - All the power to ya! I really do hope you can make your car exactly the way you want it to be. I see absolutly no problem with wanting such a beast!

im right there with you bro, but what kinda tire are you gonna use to make a 1500rwhp car stick on the street?
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
Yeah if I could source a 98mm that was dimensionally not much larger than my GT47-88 I'd be very interested too, I'd make the switch to a BW/Schwitzer turbo.
It will be a FI series unit now. The BW parts are limited since they don't make the rest of the parts needed to make these units. Alot of the other parts are custom pieces.

So far all the BW units that use big compressors are huge 85-100lbs units that are physically much larger then even the 106mm.
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Originally Posted by 99Z28LS1
im right there with you bro, but what kinda tire are you gonna use to make a 1500rwhp car stick on the street?

there are none....trying to hook more than 700-800 is a lesson in throttle control....
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Originally Posted by DrTurbo
The comp cover will be nearly indentical in size. Should fit in the same location. The exhaust housing is a touch larger though.
got plenty of room for the exhaust housing...

Might be calling you after the new year
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Originally Posted by Fireball
got plenty of room for the exhaust housing...

Might be calling you after the new year
No problem. Here is one of the prototype units on a 2.0L 4cylinder. 72lbs of boost and that is a AWD car.... . Turbo still was holding boost strong.....has even more to go. Not bad for an 80mm

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^ is this a 4G63?
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Originally Posted by H8Mac
^ is this a 4G63?
No its a Cosworth.
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Originally Posted by Quickin
Tell ya what......can someone just tell me what single turbo kit, if there is one, will fit in the WS6 and be big enough to support and efficiently feed a 427ci? Forget the 454ci, no need to be that big. My engine builder will take care of the rest.

If noone knows I'll delete the thread.


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hang on a minute-how are people going to give u good input if u keep changing the cubes

1.481
2.454?
3.427 cubes>now-

the cubes does make a lot of difference for a turbo selection-

come to think about it-why dont u ask your engine builder what to do-it looks like its going to cost a lot of $$$ so why ask us????
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To be real honest we are not even selling the S95 anymore. Our customers just plain can not fit them. They are HUGE. They are almost 2" larger then even a 106 externally. If you can wait till after Christmas or so our new mini-thumpers will be out. We have the new ETT wheels all the way up to 100mm and all packaged around the size of a GT55. Compact and the ETT 100mm wheel will flow close to a 106mm GT-TV wheel, plus the unit will spool almost 700-900rpms faster as well.

Testing so far has been un-real. Our ETT 94mm made 40rwhp then a T101 and spool 800rpms sooner.

I personally would go with a 400ci engine or so and probably the FI94X or FI98X. The FI100X would probably be a little overkill for a street car.
So, can I keep A/C with the new mini-thumpers?

What power level can be reached with say a 422ci or a 427ci?

What twins would you recommend for a 422ci or 427ci?

Say 1,400-1,500 RWHP is the goal.

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I heard from a little birdy you might be testing one of these also.....lol. Your other unit is done and flow tested. I think they will be calling you this upcoming week. We made some changes to the design to help spool up. These big turbine wheels are tough to get spooled....lol. The newer unit (FI@@X units) are going to be awesome!!!! But right now delays are killing us from the casting foundry that makes the center section. The backlog is growing daily.....


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Originally Posted by Quickin
So, can I keep A/C with the new mini-thumpers?

What power level can be reached with say a 422ci or a 427ci?

What twins would you recommend for a 422ci or 427ci?

Say 1,400-1,500 RWHP is the goal.

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Ask Tiago. He maxed out twin 70's on a 427ci LSX 6 bolt block. I'm sure he's going bigger.

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The only thing though is his is a custom twin kit made by him. You are going to need to ask a custom turbo fabricator like Stenod or Speed Inc and they will both prob tell you that you will be hard pressed trying to keep A/C.

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Originally Posted by njc.corp
hang on a minute-how are people going to give u good input if u keep changing the cubes

1.481
2.454?
3.427 cubes>now-

the cubes does make a lot of difference for a turbo selection-

come to think about it-why dont u ask your engine builder what to do-it looks like its going to cost a lot of $$$ so why ask us????
I know, I was just thinking bigger, bigger, bigger.

I asked my builder today. He said I was nuts for doing a 481ci. He wants to build me an iron GM LSX blocked 422ci with All-Pro heads and a Hogan intake. He said it'll put down 1,500 RWHP on race gas and be VERY streetable and last a pretty long time. I sold my LSX block to a local guy a week ago, but me and him are buying 3 LSX blocks next week. He wants a couple for himself and I need another one to build my set-up. I sold my other one because I was going to get the tall deck LSX, and my builder said its not necassary for what I want, so now I need to buy another one. I also heard that the LSX short deck iron blocks might be in danger of stopping completely because of a falling out between GM and their supplier for the block, which is an off-shore country who makes it for GM. I also heard the tall deck LSX's might never happen. I hope all this is false.

So I might buy a couple LSX's next week just to have them.

I can care less about money at this point I'm gonna get what I want. My 96,000 mile 436ci stroker isn't gonna last forever.


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Originally Posted by NA$TY-TA
Ask Tiago. He maxed out twin 70's on a 427ci LSX 6 bolt block. I'm sure he's going bigger.

Kyle
NRE uses twin 88's on a 454ci to make 2,300 FWHP, and built for street use.

I should just use what NRE used on his 1,500 hp 408ci he built for Hot Rod magazine that did the 1,500 mile trip stopping at 5 1/4 mile drag strips along the way 300 miles apart.......with no break downs.

But I gotta keep A/C.


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Originally Posted by Quickin
I also heard that the LSX short deck iron blocks might be in danger of stopping completely because of a falling out between GM and their supplier for the block, which is an off-shore country who makes it for GM. I also heard the tall deck LSX's might never happen. I hope all this is false.
The blocks are made in Mexico. I guess in relation to Florida, that's off shore. Falling out with the Mexicans huh? What's new.
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The blocks are made in Mexico. I guess in relation to Florida, that's off shore. Falling out with the Mexicans huh? What's new.
Its just what I heard. The guy would not tell me details or where they are actually made. I really don't care as long as I can get a couple of them.

GM owns the molds so I guess they can start up somewhere else if need be.

Either way, I'm gonna get 2-3 blocks just to have.

Why aren't you out partying on a Froday night....I'm on my way out right now.

Later.......



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Originally Posted by Quickin
Why aren't you out partying on a Froday night....I'm on my way out right now.

Later.......
We're still an hour behind you in Texas. I'll be out on the town in about 30 minutes.
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Originally Posted by Quickin
NRE uses twin 88's on a 454ci to make 2,300 FWHP, and built for street use.

I should just use what NRE used on his 1,500 hp 408ci he built for Hot Rod magazine that did the 1,500 mile trip stopping at 5 1/4 mile drag strips along the way 300 miles apart.......with no break downs.

But I gotta keep A/C.


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Thats nothing.... my local buddy made more then that with less cubes..... but for the street thats retarded..... its a 10.5 Outlaw car and that mcuh power CAN NOT be controlled on the street and has no buisness there...
Everyone knows people who make insane HP and all it takes is $$$
Now to to it in a LSx it takes more $$ and to want A/C your prob going to have to pay $9-10K for a custom Turbo setup....maybe more....

I really wasnt impressed with NRE LS2.... thats only about 900rwhp... no project F-Bomb are talking about??? I thought that thing crashed and has never made a 1/4 pass.....
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