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Old 11-28-2007, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by mahhddgtp

Is there a set of twins someone has used on a LSx setup that compares to the numbers the S88 or S91 puts out for the same CI motor?? Beats?
There's a twin turbo 427ci LSX iron blocked engine that makes 1,800 crank horsepower. Just finished it and dynoed it. It has the dual fuel intake that uses a stand alone tank with race gas so the car can be driven all the time on 91 pump gas. Got an email from the shop yesterday that did it.

What was that shops name, hmmmmmmm, can't quite remember..........REN or was it ENR or was it NER....damn, can't remember

Things just keep getting better and better.......


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Originally Posted by mahhddgtp
Indeed.

Is there a set of twins someone has used on a LSx setup that compares to the numbers the S88 or S91 puts out for the same CI motor?? Beats?
We are working with a customer on that as well. Our new FI66's using ETT wheels will be a nice setup and the customer is hoping for over 1600hp and quick spool.
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Ok for all of you that have hammered our phones this morning for the size of a GT55...here it is below.....lol. I knew we had a diag. of it on the server, but took a bit to find it.

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So.
Length
181.78 + 126.58 MM = 308.36 MM
308.36 X 0.03937 = 12.1401332 Inches.

Tall
124.70 +107.95= 232.65 MM
232.65MM x .03937 = 9.1594305 Inches
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Originally Posted by 1INSANEGTO
So.

181.78 + 126.58 MM = 308.36 MM

308.36 X 0.03937 = 12.1401332 Inches.

So its safe to say this is about 12.15-12.20 inchs tall

Correcto...
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Damn thats big. Pulled out my ol ruler...lol
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Originally Posted by Quickin
What was that shops name, hmmmmmmm, can't quite remember..........REN or was it ENR or was it NER....damn, can't remember
Another plug.... I'm well aware of NRE, but I wanted to know the sizes of the turbos I'd have to be messing with.
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Originally Posted by mahhddgtp
Another plug.... I'm well aware of NRE, but I wanted to know the sizes of the turbos I'd have to be messing with.
I just answered your question exactly.



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So you are not using NRE, and you are going to use someone else? And you are going to order an OFI kit?
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Originally Posted by Quickin
I just answered your question exactly.
404: Turbo sizes not found

"There's a twin turbo 427ci LSX iron blocked engine that makes 1,800 crank horsepower" =! Turbo sizes
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Me personally, I not really impressed with the stuff NRE builds. First of all I notice alot of the parts he uses are not the top of the line. Im not saying there not good, just not the very best. For $50K or $60K that SOB better have billet this Billet that, Alum blocks. If you bought all the stuff he has in them motors and add it up, you wont get to half what he charges.

By the way, and what he's chargin for headers is insane too. Ive bought the same materials he uses, and more of it. and it didnt come to 1/2 what he charges.

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Originally Posted by 509TURBOFIREHAWK
Me personally, I not really impressed with the stuff NRE builds. First of all I notice alot of the parts he uses are not the top of the line. Im not saying there not good, just not the very best. For $50K or $60K that SOB better have billet this Billet that, Alum blocks. If you bought all the stuff he has in them motors and add it up, you wont get to half what he charges.

By the way, and what he's chargin for headers is insane too. Ive bought the same materials he uses, and more of it. and it didnt come to 1/2 what he charges.
Maybe you can point out the junk parts for us. And does it mention Billet enough for ya?

Warrior series

454 lsx intercooled twin turbo dual fuel technology intake.

2300hp 2100tq race gas, 1500 hp 1500tq street trim pump gas.



Block: Gm lsx block 9.7 deck

Crankshaft: Callies Magnum 4340 forged 4.250

Connecting rods: Oliver 4340 Billet connecting rods 6.3

Pistons: Je forged pistons, 180 tool steel pins

Rings: Hell fire

Bearings: Clevite engine bearings H series

Valvetrain: Mechanical roller camshaft, 904 size roller lifters, T&D shaft rockers

Cyl Heads: All Pro symmetrical port heads 400+cfm on intakes 6 head bolts per cyl

Induction: Hogan Sheetmetal intake with single mono-blade 1700cfm throttle body. Dual injector per cylinder

Head Gaskets: SCE Copper gaskets

Fasteners: Arp

Oil System: Billet fabrication aluminum oil pan with hv pump and pick up.

Harmonic Damper: Billet cnc damper

Fuel Management: Electromotive Lap top programmable

Ignition: 60-2 Crank trigger with 4 ignition coils

Exhaust system: Stainless Steel tubular ex headers

Turbochargers: 2 88mm turbonetics tang.

Wastegates: Tial 44 mm v-band billet wastegates

Blow-off valve: Tial

Air to Air intercooler: Custom to your application

Valve Covers: Billet fabrication Sheetmetal Billet rails

Fuel system: Aeromotive fuel pump and filters
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I never said ANY of the parts he uses are JUNK. However I can see several parts that to me seem a little suspect for the money.

And am merely pointing out the fact the same or better can be built for ALOT less than what he charges!!!

I can build two of these for what he charges for one of his. http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2375...dy?vhost=rides

By the way, dont get so uptite! Its just one persons opinion.

Also, whats he has in the LSX stuff to me is better than whats in his other motors.
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Originally Posted by 509TURBOFIREHAWK
I never said ANY of the parts he uses are JUNK. However I can see several parts that to me seem a little suspect for the money.

And am merely pointing out the fact the same or better can be built for ALOT less than what he charges!!!

I can build two of these for what he charges for one of his. http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2375...dy?vhost=rides

By the way, dont get so uptite! Its just one persons opinion.

Also, whats he has in the LSX stuff to me is better than whats in his other motors.
People are also paying for his name, which he has proven to be a top turbo builder, maybe the best.

Look at the prices for LPE stuff, double what NRE charges for a fraction of the power, just as another example of how some shops charge hilarious prices for things.

I think he did like 130 dyno pulls with his 408ci TT (1,500 hp) engine, tore it down and it looked like it had never run. So he does build rock solid stuff.


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Your right people are Paying for the name. I believe Kenny Duttwieler is doing LSX stuff too.

Basically my point was Way too much money.

If you have a good builder. Use him and use the best parts you can, in the long run you'll be happy.
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To answer the original question, here is something turbonetics published as a guideline....

http://turboneticsinc.com/downloads/...urboMatrix.pdf
Attached Thumbnails gotta ask.............-turbomatrix1.jpg  
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Originally Posted by DrTurbo
Phone is ringing off the damn hook.

I thought the holidays would slow things down?? ...................guess I got owned.
let the phone ring...

dont you have turbos to assemble and ship out


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Probably a dumb question...but.....

Can the down-pipe be opened while doing a run like an N/A engine does with open headers....for more power?

If so, can a cut-out be used?


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Originally Posted by Quickin
Probably a dumb question...but.....

Can the down-pipe be opened while doing a run like an N/A engine does with open headers....for more power?

If so, can a cut-out be used?


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No, I woundnt open up the DP, but you can put a cutout on there if you would like. I can install one at the time I make the DP if you decide to order one. Depending what your setup will be you will have a change in boost pressure with the cut out open I would imagine.

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Originally Posted by tt427ls1
No, I woundnt open up the DP, but you can put a cutout on there if you would like. I can install one at the time I make the DP if you decide to order one. Depending what your setup will be you will have a change in boost pressure with the cut out open I would imagine.

Thanks Joel
Was it you that I spoke with yesterday about the 101mm turbo fitting with your single kit?

So, you're saying you wouldn't open it up but you would put a cut-out on it so I can open it up?????????? What do you mean?

I have it on my things-to-do-list for tomorrow...to call you and ask about what cubic inches my builder should do with my LSX for this set-up. He told me to ask you. If you want to tell me here....what would you use for ci and the S91? I planned to use a sheet metal intake. What heads and cam would you recommend?

Or I'll call ya tomorrow.

Thanks.

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