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Old 12-08-2007, 10:43 PM
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very nice!

doesn't seem like it was down very long which is good!
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Kevin, I never figured you'd take the time to get it back up and running before this year is over, way cool! It'll be interesting to see what the 'lil D-1SC can do. Bob
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Originally Posted by kp
Na I dont make enough power to need fancy stuff like 1/2" studs I dont think they help that much myself. I'm just hoping the LS2 deck is stronger than the LS6 block like everyone claims, if it is I'll be alright. Not planning on going that much quicker and if I get a season out of the GM MLS gaskets thats good enough for me.



I'm going to try to squeak in the 8s with the D1SC since the weather is good. But i need to make a few 1/8 mile break in passes first and make sure nothing falls off, then head over to Rockingham or Darlington before Christmas I hope.
If you decide to come to Darlington or The Rock post up I would like to see your car run- and maybe get a video or 2.
Old 12-09-2007, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Exotic Performance Plus
Kevin, I never figured you'd take the time to get it back up and running before this year is over, way cool! It'll be interesting to see what the 'lil D-1SC can do. Bob
Only took a week to swap everything over and go through the trans, got sick of tripping over parts, I can run year round here so now is as good of time as any I suppose, Weather just hasnt been cooperating, had a drought all summer now its going to rain every weekend, but we could use the rain.

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If you decide to come to Darlington or The Rock post up I would like to see your car run- and maybe get a video or 2.
Maybe next weekend, too late to go now, looked like the rain may hold off earlier but it just started pouring
Old 12-09-2007, 10:03 AM
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Ah ha! That video I saw last night was your car! Intake elbow....what is it? 4"? 3.5"? I'm looking to do the exact same thing, but run it to the other side straight across to the fuse box area, but I wasn't sure what size elbow/bend I could fit there.
Old 12-09-2007, 11:03 AM
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its a 3.5" elbow to the TB. The top of the radiator is pulled towards the front about 2" also.
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nice to hear stock pistons and rods held up. I have read so many threads warning that stock rods and pistons will not last under moderate boost ( 5-8 psi)
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Originally Posted by BadgeZ28
nice to hear stock pistons and rods held up. I have read so many threads warning that stock rods and pistons will not last under moderate boost ( 5-8 psi)
They were not stock, and he was running much more boost, lol. The crank, mains, and block were stock.
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The EPP blower cam sounds pretty smooth at idle, how high do you rev it before shifting??

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Old 12-09-2007, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BadgeZ28
nice to hear stock pistons and rods held up. I have read so many threads warning that stock rods and pistons will not last under moderate boost ( 5-8 psi)
As stated they werent stock. They were JE pistons and Howard's billet rods, I dont think there are many 19psi big cammed stock rod and piston cars running 8.90s around.

But I did run stock rods a couple years ago, ran 9.70s for a season with them and wiseco pistons, stock pistons wouldnt take the punishment. Whatever scuffed those two 2618 pistons would have shattered the stockers like a throwing a fluorescent bulb in a dumpster

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The EPP blower cam sounds pretty smooth at idle, how high do you rev it before shifting??
I shift the 1-2 at 7100 and 2-3 at 6900, if I shift at 6800 for both it slows up maybe a tenth in the 1/4 if that. With the D1SC @ 13psi and shifting at 6600 it runs 9.50 (my bracket racing setup).

Thats why I showed the a/f ratio in that video, if you put it at a stockish 14.7:1 a/f it has a pretty radical idle, but since I dont like th car killing after a burnout or idling around the pits I leave it around 13:1 a/f when its warm and that smooths the idle up quite a bit.
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idiot question....

How do you know the caps ( ie no 3 ) were walking ? What are the signs ?

Nice rods.....
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Thanks for posting pics of the LS1 block, I was hoping you'd show us how it held up.
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
idiot question....

How do you know the caps ( ie no 3 ) were walking ? What are the signs ?

Nice rods.....
Its hard to see in the pic but it was black and there was a tiny bit of metal transfer. Since the thrust bearing is there it takes a pretty good hit with the trans brake. You can see it a little better in pick of the cap here.

They are pretty nice rods for the money, nothing wrong with the eagles or whatever but I like to buy race engine parts made in the US if I can.

Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
Thanks for posting pics of the LS1 block, I was hoping you'd show us how it held up.
Most people never post pics of internal stuff unless its new on a bench or exploded lol, The thing went through a lot and I think it held up great. I can admit I probably detonated it hard a few times, but with three different cams, three sets of injectors, two fuel systems, two different sets of heads, two engine management systems, everything from 93 to C-16 through the tank, wearing out six sets of 10,5x28s, bracket racing the thing on 90 degree days, over 300 passes plus burnouts and some street driving you got to expect some detonation and maybe a little wear

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Originally Posted by kp
I shift the 1-2 at 7100 and 2-3 at 6900, if I shift at 6800 for both it slows up maybe a tenth in the 1/4 if that. With the D1SC @ 13psi and shifting at 6600 it runs 9.50 (my bracket racing setup).

Thats why I showed the a/f ratio in that video, if you put it at a stockish 14.7:1 a/f it has a pretty radical idle, but since I dont like th car killing after a burnout or idling around the pits I leave it around 13:1 a/f when its warm and that smooths the idle up quite a bit.
Great info I have been wondering how some have tamed the idle of somewhat radical cams...My lesson for the day
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Originally Posted by NemesisC5
Great info I have been wondering how some have tamed the idle of somewhat radical cams...My lesson for the day
Needless to say its not good on your eyes in a confined space and uses more fuel at idle. But I have it set where once the rpm goes above 1100 it goes back to 14:1 or so so the mileage doesnt take a big hit unless you idle it all day.
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Originally Posted by kp
its a 3.5" elbow to the TB. The top of the radiator is pulled towards the front about 2" also.
Damn, I can't pull my radiator forward at all with the AC condenser I'll figure something out I suppose.
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Originally Posted by kp
I can run year round here so now is as good of time as any I suppose, (
Kevin, any 1/4 miles tracks near you stay open all year? Bob
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Originally Posted by kp
Its hard to see in the pic but it was black and there was a tiny bit of metal transfer. Since the thrust bearing is there it takes a pretty good hit with the trans brake. You can see it a little better in pick of the cap here.
Damn......all of mine look like that.
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Originally Posted by kp
Most of the time you just see shiny new engines or ones that are nuked pretty bad. This was just a good, solid. hard working piece that I beat the crap out of and it still kept going, it looked about what I expected it. I feel I got my money's worth out of it thats for sure..

Very cool KP and that old 346 motor of yours sure was built right and battle tested (to say the least)!

Great post, and best of luck to you on your new motor which should propel you into the 8s!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Nice info Kevin, I hope you have good luck with this motor as well. Though I think "luck" didn't have much to do with it. You make me feel like a lazy _____! Mines been sitting up on my lift for the last 5 or 6 weeks, untouched!


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