Foxbody Mustang 5.0 with TTI T61 Turbo ... how fast is this guy?
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Foxbody Mustang 5.0 with TTI T61 Turbo ... how fast is this guy?
A guy at work talking a lot of trash about how he wants to take out my Trans Am. Track times in my sig below on Nitto's and a mediocre soft launch .. DA was good and the track was hooking pretty good.
I'm gonna' race him, but, ordering MT Street DR's because I had them on the car 3 times and I know they dead hook. Anybody know what a setup like his should be running? His car has a TTI T61 single turbo setup and he says is 2900 lbs. He's about 260-270 or better ... claims his buddy runs 11.3's with the exact same identical setup and weight.
When my MT's get here, I should gain .2 on my 60' ... anyone think I can hang with him with me just on motor? F-Quick link below has my motor build, suspension, and driveline work. The car dyno'd at 440/415 (uncorrected numbers) ... SAE corrected would have been about 415-417RWHP and around 400 RWTQ that day.
This guy's talking soooooooo much **** and I've gotta' take him out.
I'm gonna' race him, but, ordering MT Street DR's because I had them on the car 3 times and I know they dead hook. Anybody know what a setup like his should be running? His car has a TTI T61 single turbo setup and he says is 2900 lbs. He's about 260-270 or better ... claims his buddy runs 11.3's with the exact same identical setup and weight.
When my MT's get here, I should gain .2 on my 60' ... anyone think I can hang with him with me just on motor? F-Quick link below has my motor build, suspension, and driveline work. The car dyno'd at 440/415 (uncorrected numbers) ... SAE corrected would have been about 415-417RWHP and around 400 RWTQ that day.
This guy's talking soooooooo much **** and I've gotta' take him out.
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Even if he beats you, he had to use force induction to do it! If you're worried, hide a small dry shot of juice behind your MAS sensor! I think it's funny how 'Stangs GOTTA use forced induction to even contend with F-Body motor. Does he know how to launch and drive? Do you? That in itsself can make/break a race. If you run 11.89 and 'his buddy' runs 11.3 it should be a close race. Real nice looking car too, by the way! Good luck on the run and keep us informed! Swat
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Foxbodys are light!!! To have a chance you'll need to get him out of the hole. You dont want to be playing catch up with a lighter car. A good launch and the driver mod and you stand a hell of a chance. Good luck
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I had a mustang with the TTi street kit and a bigger turbo (67 vs 61). It ran high 11's but trapped 124 MPH. The car was stone stock except for the kit, fuel system, and drag radials. It was full weight and a 5 speed. So yeah, he could have a good chance of beating you.
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im going to say there is a good chance he will beat you! Is his car an auto? or do you know of any other mods? I have a buddy that ran 6.20's in the 1/8th with a homemade twin turbo kit and stock E7 headed motor. so there is a lot of potential.
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If he's talking trash, and telling you a similar setup runs low 11's, chances are that he's running faster than he is telling you. And personally seeing several low 10 second to single digit 1/4 mile times out of single Turbo Fox Bodies, I'd say he's probably trying to pull one over on you, and you'll need more than just slicks to take this guy out.
If you can get some more intel on his car that doesn't come from him like times he is actually running, or actual RWHP numbers, we can better asses your odds, but if I were to make a judgement based off the info you presented to me, I'd be worried if I were in your shoes.
If you can get some more intel on his car that doesn't come from him like times he is actually running, or actual RWHP numbers, we can better asses your odds, but if I were to make a judgement based off the info you presented to me, I'd be worried if I were in your shoes.
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A guy at work talking a lot of trash about how he wants to take out my Trans Am. Track times in my sig below on Nitto's and a mediocre soft launch .. DA was good and the track was hooking pretty good.
I'm gonna' race him, but, ordering MT Street DR's because I had them on the car 3 times and I know they dead hook. Anybody know what a setup like his should be running? His car has a TTI T61 single turbo setup and he says is 2900 lbs. He's about 260-270 or better ... claims his buddy runs 11.3's with the exact same identical setup and weight.
When my MT's get here, I should gain .2 on my 60' ... anyone think I can hang with him with me just on motor? F-Quick link below has my motor build, suspension, and driveline work. The car dyno'd at 440/415 (uncorrected numbers) ... SAE corrected would have been about 415-417RWHP and around 400 RWTQ that day.
This guy's talking soooooooo much **** and I've gotta' take him out.
I'm gonna' race him, but, ordering MT Street DR's because I had them on the car 3 times and I know they dead hook. Anybody know what a setup like his should be running? His car has a TTI T61 single turbo setup and he says is 2900 lbs. He's about 260-270 or better ... claims his buddy runs 11.3's with the exact same identical setup and weight.
When my MT's get here, I should gain .2 on my 60' ... anyone think I can hang with him with me just on motor? F-Quick link below has my motor build, suspension, and driveline work. The car dyno'd at 440/415 (uncorrected numbers) ... SAE corrected would have been about 415-417RWHP and around 400 RWTQ that day.
This guy's talking soooooooo much **** and I've gotta' take him out.
If you can get more intel on the car that would be great. Auto or stick, hatch or coupe...gears, suspension etc. Fox bodies can run very well, but theres more idiots out there then there are people smart enough to actually make them run to their potential.
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A buddy of mine has a Supercharged Fox body (the lightest notchback) and is pushing 500+ RWHP. He does decent on street tires but can really launch the car. Turbo's are generally faster as they take time to spool up the boost. My buddy runs mid-low 11's but his trap is like 126 MPH so if this Turbo fox body is anything like my friends, the slicks will definatly help depending on his traction situation. If he's an auto, he may have a big advantage.
Here's a vid of my buddies supercharged Mustang vs my Z28 in my sig.
Both cars were over 500 RWHP
Here's a vid of my buddies supercharged Mustang vs my Z28 in my sig.
Both cars were over 500 RWHP
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Well, this guy has a manual tranny, so, I'll murder him on the launch. Last Fall, we raced 3 times out on the 4-lane where there is no traffic in a rural area. He had an older Magnacharger S/C and neither of us could pull, against the other.
Now, on the same car and same motor, he has a TTI T61 he just installed. Since I raced him with that Magnacharger on his car, I have removed the basic stuff from the Trans Am (back seats, jack, spare, etc.) ... about 120 lbs. On top of that, I have removed the front sway bar and brackets. I also swapped from AFS ZR1's 17x9.5/17x11 (315 MT Street DR's) to stock '01-'02 wheels 17x9 on all corners ... MT 275 DR's are going out back to replace the Nitto's, so, about 50+ lbs of rotating mass has been removed with my wheel and tire swap ... since he had the S/C on that car when we raced. I have gained .6 10th's and 5 mph in the past 3 months, so, my car's substantially faster since then. Oh yeah ... I've lost close to 25 lbs off my ***, as well. He weighs I'd say 260-270 ... pretty fat. I'm 200lbs dead-on. I'm thinking I may be able to beat him without doing much at all.
Now, on the same car and same motor, he has a TTI T61 he just installed. Since I raced him with that Magnacharger on his car, I have removed the basic stuff from the Trans Am (back seats, jack, spare, etc.) ... about 120 lbs. On top of that, I have removed the front sway bar and brackets. I also swapped from AFS ZR1's 17x9.5/17x11 (315 MT Street DR's) to stock '01-'02 wheels 17x9 on all corners ... MT 275 DR's are going out back to replace the Nitto's, so, about 50+ lbs of rotating mass has been removed with my wheel and tire swap ... since he had the S/C on that car when we raced. I have gained .6 10th's and 5 mph in the past 3 months, so, my car's substantially faster since then. Oh yeah ... I've lost close to 25 lbs off my ***, as well. He weighs I'd say 260-270 ... pretty fat. I'm 200lbs dead-on. I'm thinking I may be able to beat him without doing much at all.
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Just keep in mind that the TT setup he has is also superior to his magnacharger he had on when you raced him last as well. Understand me correctly, I am pulling for you to win expecially over a Ford, I just want you to be aware you might need a little more than your slicks to pull it off. A nice 100 shot of juice would be a great idea to seal the deal I think.
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Yeah, for sure ... the reason I started this thread is because I don't discount him. So, over his old Magnacharger on the same car, how much more power would he be making? On his old Magnacharger he said he was running 8psi and he couldn't beat me. In about 3 months I have gained .6 and 5 mph due to things done to the car since. That means to beat me, the turbo would have to have picked up more than I have ... anybody think his turbo setup will make THAT much power over his old Magnacharger S/C?
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Magnachargers are about the least performing supercharger on the market. Single Turbo's produce the most power over all other FI applications. A 61mm turbo is a medium sized one, but if he was running mild to a high amount of boost, he'll definatly have more power than you.
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I also vote for a little spray. Even if its a 50 shot you may need it.
Id love for you to beat him stock. Hell im rocking the I pimp slap mustangs ls1tech license plate frame on my ta, so id really love for you to beat him, but it will be rough. He is probably making just as much, if not more power then you, and is lighter. All that leaves you with is the launch, after that he should pull on you.
I have seen notch's run 10's with just nitrous. Its alot, but they can be made very fast for very cheap, which is why there so popular. Id say add a small shot, pick up a cheap kit, fill the bottle, and for 400 bucks or so you got him just about guaranteed. And at the end of the day, its still a single adder race, so its fair.
Good luck, Chris
Id love for you to beat him stock. Hell im rocking the I pimp slap mustangs ls1tech license plate frame on my ta, so id really love for you to beat him, but it will be rough. He is probably making just as much, if not more power then you, and is lighter. All that leaves you with is the launch, after that he should pull on you.
I have seen notch's run 10's with just nitrous. Its alot, but they can be made very fast for very cheap, which is why there so popular. Id say add a small shot, pick up a cheap kit, fill the bottle, and for 400 bucks or so you got him just about guaranteed. And at the end of the day, its still a single adder race, so its fair.
Good luck, Chris