View Poll Results: how much water do you run with your meth injection?
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Meth water mix
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FYI, presto, 50% methanol in water is still flammable. Mix some up and put it in a small bowl outdoors... secure the dog. Drop a match in the bowl and it will fizzle out... but wave your hand over the bowl and you'll feel the heat from the invisible flames. Extinguish by covering with a pot or something else non-flammable. Be careful, please, if you actually test this...
Given the fact that I'm already plumbing a bunch of fuel at pressure under my hood, I'm not too worried about using 100% methanol in my alcohol tank.
Given the fact that I'm already plumbing a bunch of fuel at pressure under my hood, I'm not too worried about using 100% methanol in my alcohol tank.
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this a direct quote written on my snow performance methanol pump
anything over a 50/50 mix voids the warranty on the pump too
from my understanding a 50/50 mix is a combustible not a flammable, any thing over 50% is a flammable.. there is a difference between the two
just because something will burn doesn't mean its flammable..
ALL FLAMMABLES ARE COMBUSTIBLES BUT NOT ALL COMBUSTIBLES ARE FLAMMABLE
im not trying to argue that a 50/50 mix is better then a 100% mix, im just letting people know what snow performance recommends
Originally Posted by snowperformance
DO NOT PUMP FLAMMABLE LIQUIDS. DO NOT PUMP MORE THEN 50/50 MIX OF ALCOHOL AND WATER MORE THAN 50% ALCOHOL MIX IS A FLAMMABLE LIQUID
from my understanding a 50/50 mix is a combustible not a flammable, any thing over 50% is a flammable.. there is a difference between the two
just because something will burn doesn't mean its flammable..
ALL FLAMMABLES ARE COMBUSTIBLES BUT NOT ALL COMBUSTIBLES ARE FLAMMABLE
im not trying to argue that a 50/50 mix is better then a 100% mix, im just letting people know what snow performance recommends
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ALL FLAMMABLES ARE COMBUSTIBLES BUT NOT ALL COMBUSTIBLES ARE FLAMMABLE
So, with the Snow kits, the question is moot.
Another reason to use Alkycontrol instead, in my book.
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this a direct quote written on my snow performance methanol pump
anything over a 50/50 mix voids the warranty on the pump too
from my understanding a 50/50 mix is a combustible not a flammable, any thing over 50% is a flammable.. there is a difference between the two
just because something will burn doesn't mean its flammable..
ALL FLAMMABLES ARE COMBUSTIBLES BUT NOT ALL COMBUSTIBLES ARE FLAMMABLE
im not trying to argue that a 50/50 mix is better then a 100% mix, im just letting people know what snow performance recommends
anything over a 50/50 mix voids the warranty on the pump too
from my understanding a 50/50 mix is a combustible not a flammable, any thing over 50% is a flammable.. there is a difference between the two
just because something will burn doesn't mean its flammable..
ALL FLAMMABLES ARE COMBUSTIBLES BUT NOT ALL COMBUSTIBLES ARE FLAMMABLE
im not trying to argue that a 50/50 mix is better then a 100% mix, im just letting people know what snow performance recommends
My Snow Performance pump says no such thing on it...the instructions mention you can run 100% alcohol if desired. Maybe you got an older pump?
They use a Shurflo now which seems to be the same as most kits.
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really?? mine does
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its kinda hard to read because my camera sucks, but you can easily make it out if you you read my quote
mine is a shurflo pump aswell
u have a pic of yours?
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Originally Posted by snowperformance
DO NOT PUMP FLAMMABLE LIQUIDS. DO NOT PUMP MORE THEN 50/50 MIX OF ALCOHOL AND WATER MORE THAN 50% ALCOHOL MIX IS A FLAMMABLE LIQUID
mine is a shurflo pump aswell
u have a pic of yours?
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I installed my alky kit this weekend, filled it with water only for the intial test. Still had some detonation and it felt slower too.
Today I switched to 70% denatured alcohol / 30% water. Detonation is completely gone. Advanced the timing 5 degrees, still no detonation! It hauls ***** now!![Happy](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_stretch.gif)
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Today I switched to 70% denatured alcohol / 30% water. Detonation is completely gone. Advanced the timing 5 degrees, still no detonation! It hauls ***** now!
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Just ran out to the garage and looked at mine it doesn't have that label on it either. Basically has snow performance and water/methol injection is it. Either way doesn't really matter to me I think I am going to run 50/50 but won't be spraying much in my setup anyways.
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You'll also notice many of the other companies pumps are left unpainted. Our pumps are actually painted black which is extra. While this is really only a minor detail. This does provide some added protection to the outside of the pump. When exposed to the outdoor elements the body will rust. Additionally, it looks much nicer then a unpainted pump.
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Check with this manufacture as their older pumps came with Viton seals which can only handle 50/50 mix. You may have an older pump. If so do not run a mixture over 50/50 water methanol. If you stay with a 50/50 mix you will be just fine.
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Actually, -20 below zero washer fluids are only 30% methanol. We researched over 15 different brands and they wer all with in 2% of each other. In order to achieve that temperature rating they add approx. 30% methanol with 1-2% ethylene glycol with some brands.
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I am getting ready to test the M3 meth from VP. Will post results.
http://www.vpracingfuels.com/article...54263.67811343
http://www.vpracingfuels.com/article...54263.67811343