ls1408cp

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anyone spray alittle meth preturbo, I read about a couple people doing it.

ALLBOTTLE

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thats a horrible idea, it starts to pit the inducer wheel and leads to premature failure and inefficiency by the compressor.

you are going to want 2-4 M15 nozzles you can place one at the turbo discharge and the other 3 as close to the tb as possible

BoostnTBSS

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well its not horrible its not safe!!!!! will cause a little wear on the wheels but not bad.. think Draw thru!!!!! huge power gains!!!!! back in the late 80's and early 90's my dad ran a draw thru twin turbo car and every one said it would never run.. but when you get duttwiller over at the car scratching his head saying wow you know you did something right!! Thanks buddy ingersol!!!!! too fast for NHRA prostock!!!!! and that set up and turbos lasted 5 years!!!! dont hate till you know... i have the new set up with blow thru E85 and meth draw thru on my LSX starquest build and i am sure it will shock tons of people!!!! BUT IT IS VERY DANGEROUS!!! AND FLAMABLE!!!!

ls1408cp

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anyone else spray alot of meth? I am going to run e85 too I dont want to pay the price for c16 and alot of stations sell it around here.

Jake@EPP

The best thing about c16 is the consistency that it IS 116 octane. E85 can and WILL have variance, same as 93 pump fuel, its within a tolerance, but it still varies.

ALLBOTTLE

iTrader: (13)

Yup... that C16 will look real cheap come time to replace the motor.

Meth/Gas= bandaid, you would be better off running 100% meth or race fuel+A2W, make sure the motor is built for lots of meth it as it requires different ring gaps/tolerances 4-4.5:1 AF will do a number on cylinder walls.

ls1408cp

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after i tune it on e85 I will pull a couple of degrees of timing out of it. I will have a wb in the car to tell if it doesnt turn on and the best meth kitmade. I think on e85 i wont need as much meth as you think. the problem with c16 is they dont sell it st the pump. I plan on driving the car.

ALLBOTTLE

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Good luck,

i would still say run a A2W and the e85.... there is plenty of room, in the front bumper, passenger area foot well, be creative.

If you are set on running meth look into SMC, they have a great progressive controller and great customer service. I ran 35 psi on pump gas and methanol on a 67mm turbo with my evo 8, close to 50g of meth through it and never had one problem.

So are you going to run a converter box and 96lb injectors or you going BS3?

BoostnTBSS

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Well my motor is built for it!! and i will be running E85 with 2 meth nozzles to boot!! i got a few secrets!!!! i hope i can keep the intake and carb from freezing up!!!!

Jake@EPP

What size of meth nozzles do you have planned? m5 x 2?

ls1408cp

iTrader: (37)

converter box and 160s. I am not sure what pump I am going to run maybe the prostar 750efi alot of guys on turbo forums street drive with them and say at high pressure they still move alot of volume.

ls1408cp

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I was told to run 2xm15s. Are those big nozzles?

Jake@EPP

What pump setup? A m15 based around a alky control kit is a decent amount of meth depending on the gain and final adjustment.

I think the biggest issue with hosing the car with a ton of meth is, pump failure. Reliability is the key at this point with mega hp, hell even a blown fuse.

In a situation with multiple fuel systems, it would be a good idea to have either a pressure alarm, egt/AFR alarm.

ALLBOTTLE

iTrader: (13)

they are mid size...

Biggest thing is goign to be what pressure the pump is rated at. a m15@100psi is a good amount of meth, m15@40psi not so good.

If you want PM me and i can help you out with the meth, i do have a bit of experience in it.

BoostnTBSS

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i have a seperate 6 gal fuel cell with a stand alone fuel system.. i will prob run 1 m5 and 2 m15 nozzles.

LSJM1

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I run 2 m-15 nozzle razors kit on my buick GN.Run straight V-1 VP meth makes more power,water does'nt burn.Nothing like 28psi on 93 octane.

ls1408cp

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the meth kit I just bought has a test button and light that tells if pressure doesnt build. I will also be running a wideband with an alarm if I can find a good one that will work with e85. I will be making enough power so running the car a little rich all the time wont be a big deal.

ALLBOTTLE

iTrader: (13)

The AEM/PLX/Innovative are all great.

You are just going to have to get use to tunning in Lambda rather than Actual AFR since AF gauges normally dont Display below 10.0 AF

BoostnTBSS

iTrader: (-1)

I think you can change the wide band via laptop cable to read other fuels!!!!

TT632

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If you don't mind reading with "gasoline" scaling its not a big deal. When it says 14.7(stoich) and your on Methanol, you know its 6.5. This won't happen on methanol since you have to run much richer than stoich. When I'm showing 10:1 on the dynos O2 sensor it's pretty close to 4.5:1, which is where my motor likes it.

By the way, I like the idea of running E85 with with a methanol adder. You won't tax your fuel system like you do running your engine on methanol. The simpler way of doing it would be to reduce your compression a little, add more boost and just run with E85 alone.