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Old 03-09-2008 | 05:19 PM
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Years ago we had limited springs and times change with more testing.

Now,For a 24x/25x Cam static compression should be .5-1 point higher. Too me it looks like you picked a long duration cam and advanced the valve event's.This works for midrange but kills topend as you found out.If you stay with the low comp. of 9.9-1 you need to keep DCR. We went over this many times before. I garrenty a generic Cam of a XER238/248 on 115 duration install straight up would make more power than you have now and rev out.(unless the blower chokes or the intake does)I have a 427ci Vette sitting here with a D1 pushing 10lbs of boost making 845rwhp on 100% 93 octain.Peak power is at 6500rpm and holds to 7000rpm with only a 234/240XER Cam.Just think if we added meth and a bigger blower like the F1A.
Slowhawk, not sure why your chest thumping against us in our thread I would have taken this as constructive criticism, but, in a PM minutes ago you told me quite rudely to shut the F up. You are very unprofessional so please stay off my threads.
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Originally Posted by Beaflag VonRathburg
I think it would crack 8s as it sits. That thing has the power. I don't know if the rest of the car is down for crazy 60s and etc, but I think it'll do it.
Thanks Beaflag, we only run 26x11.5 ET Streets to help make the drivetrain live. The car has gone high 1.4 60 foots with a 347 making 725 rwhp. This 402 is making a boatload more torque so I'm hoping for low 1.4 60 foots. Wish us luck! Thanks. Dave
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Originally Posted by SLED28
Slowhawk, not sure why your chest thumping against us in our thread I would have taken this as constructive criticism, but, in a PM minutes ago you told me quite rudely to shut the F up. You are very unprofessional so please stay off my threads.
That reply was a direct answer to the PM you sent me.If your PM was alittle nicer to me you probly would of got a better answer.

And I took that PM as you,not Arun.
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Great numbers dave how long after we left did you start the dyno up wish i could have seen that monster on there. makes me excited about my project.
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I would definitely recommend a cam shaft in the plus or minus 236/242 @ 114/115 range with an XE-R lobe straight up as well.... It would carry through to 7k and put down some more power..
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Great numbers dave how long after we left did you start the dyno up wish i could have seen that monster on there. makes me excited about my project.
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Charlie, we we're there untill 5 AM Made 900 + with both cars. I can't wait to get to your car finished!
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Originally Posted by SoCalSpd
I would definitely recommend a cam shaft in the plus or minus 236/242 @ 114/115 range with an XE-R lobe straight up as well.... It would carry through to 7k and put down some more power..
Thanks for the advice. We had a cam in the car a little bigger then that but pulled it for this other cam. We are going to stick old Betsy back in there and rev it out to 7000rpms. Something we need to do with our small tires is to rev it so we can make it through the traps with our tire/gear selection.
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hope we get those kind of # with it
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Originally Posted by Slowhawk
Years ago we had limited springs and times change with more testing.

Now,For a 24x/25x Cam static compression should be .5-1 point higher. Too me it looks like you picked a long duration cam and advanced the valve event's.This works for midrange but kills topend as you found out.If you stay with the low comp. of 9.9-1 you need to keep DCR. We went over this many times before. I garrenty a generic Cam of a XER238/248 on 115 duration install straight up would make more power than you have now and rev out.(unless the blower chokes or the intake does)I have a 427ci Vette sitting here with a D1 pushing 10lbs of boost making 845rwhp on 100% 93 octain.Peak power is at 6500rpm and holds to 7000rpm with only a 234/240XER Cam.Just think if we added meth and a bigger blower like the F1A.

It was something that I wanted to try on a camshaft and now I know that it didn't work to my liking. Dave already had picked out a cam that was real close to the 238/248 when he built my 402 last year and I made him pull it out-not once but twice! It will be going back in tomorow-need to kill some torque!
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Viperslayer: Well it's looking like 900/900 with a F1A, 850 with a D1 and 1100+ with a F1R.
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yeah man, when is the next time your strapping it down i would like to come check it out.
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I will let you know for sure.
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Originally Posted by eb02z06
It was something that I wanted to try on a camshaft and now I know that it didn't work to my liking. Dave already had picked out a cam that was real close to the 238/248 when he built my 402 last year and I made him pull it out-not once but twice! It will be going back in tomorow-need to kill some torque!
The Cam will work.I would also recommend again to slow the blower speed down too.It's good to get killer dyno #'s but sucks when you keep blowing the heads off at the track. Been there,done that -sucks.

If you can push a legit 900rwhp to 7000rpm your car should have no problem running mid 8's.
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eb02zo6 Huge Congrats man and sick Vette now go to the track and back those numbers with 8s pass

SLED28 Great work like always man.
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Originally Posted by Slowhawk
Years ago we had limited springs and times change with more testing.

Now,For a 24x/25x Cam static compression should be .5-1 point higher. Too me it looks like you picked a long duration cam and advanced the valve event's.This works for midrange but kills topend as you found out.If you stay with the low comp. of 9.9-1 you need to keep DCR. We went over this many times before. I garrenty a generic Cam of a XER238/248 on 115 duration install straight up would make more power than you have now and rev out.(unless the blower chokes or the intake does)I have a 427ci Vette sitting here with a D1 pushing 10lbs of boost making 845rwhp on 100% 93 octain.Peak power is at 6500rpm and holds to 7000rpm with only a 234/240XER Cam.Just think if we added meth and a bigger blower like the F1A.
Bro-the DCR of a 238/248 115 is only 7.11? It's actually lower than the cam in the car?
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Originally Posted by SLED28
Thanks Beaflag, we only run 26x11.5 ET Streets to help make the drivetrain live. The car has gone high 1.4 60 foots with a 347 making 725 rwhp. This 402 is making a boatload more torque so I'm hoping for low 1.4 60 foots. Wish us luck! Thanks. Dave
With that kind of 60 foot times it sounds like it will crank off 8s as it sits. As long as the rear / torque tube holds I don't see a problem. I'm really impressed with those numbers. If you throw that F1R on there it would be even crazier.
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That thing will be a beast at the track....get it out and run it and post up how it does
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Originally Posted by eb02z06
Bro-the DCR of a 238/248 115 is only 7.11? It's actually lower than the cam in the car?
Then it's good to test this style of Cam to see the difference. My DCR calc. is different since I add boost pressure.
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Originally Posted by Slowhawk
The Cam will work.I would also recommend again to slow the blower speed down too.It's good to get killer dyno #'s but sucks when you keep blowing the heads off at the track. Been there,done that -sucks.

If you can push a legit 900rwhp to 7000rpm your car should have no problem running mid 8's.
Blower's only 4" and crank 8' so at 6500 that's only 70,200.


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