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Old May 14, 2008 | 01:41 PM
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Default Procharger on stock internals?

I know the general rule is no more than 500HP on stock LS1 internals.. And with a procharger, that's around 8lbs. of boost I believe..

My question is, how many people have ran over 8lbs, or over 500HP on stock internals with no problems?

I want to see if I can go past that 500 mark, with a perfect tune, and have it be reliable.

Also, who has tried to run it over 500HP or 8lbs and broke something?

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Was running 11#.. started getting a lot of blow by. I had cracked the ringlands on #7.

The car dynoed right at 499 rwhp with the converter unlocked.
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Old May 14, 2008 | 02:42 PM
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Mine blew with a 4.5" pulley. Was showing 9-10psi @6500rpm somehow.
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My car dynoed 511rwhp with a procharger.
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My car dynoed 511rwhp with a procharger.
How much boost?
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529 rwhp on less than 10 pounds of boost since April 2005.
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Originally Posted by Urban Legend
529 rwhp on less than 10 pounds of boost since April 2005.
Oh ok cool, no problems at all?
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See my sig. I was running 11# on the stock shortblock. It ran real strong but it didn't last long. It probably had a lot to do with me trying to tune it myself. The last time I logged anything I had 0 knock retard and was around 11.5:1 AFR at WOT. I thought it was good enough but #7 didn't agree with me.


Edit: Just noticed my sig says 8psi. It was supposed to be 8 pounds but I think they over compensated for my mods. I was actually seeing 11psi on the guage.
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Originally Posted by Black01M6SS
See my sig. I was running 11# on the stock shortblock. It ran real strong but it didn't last long. It probably had a lot to do with me trying to tune it myself. The last time I logged anything I had 0 knock retard and was around 11.5:1 AFR at WOT. I thought it was good enough but #7 didn't agree with me.


Edit: Just noticed my sig says 8psi. It was supposed to be 8 pounds but I think they over compensated for my mods. I was actually seeing 11psi on the guage.
Hmm, 11#? Not bad.. what were your numbers looking like?

Also, what is with this #7 cylinder.. why does everybody keep having problems with it when boosting?
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I never had it on a dyno. I bought EFI Live and a wideband o2 setup and tuned it myself on the street. About the time I thought I had the tune good enough she poped.

I'm not sure what the deal is with #7. If you search the subject you will find that there are a lot of different opinions on why that one goes first. I don't think anyone really has it figured out.
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Originally Posted by M-Ten
Hmm, 11#? Not bad.. what were your numbers looking like?

Also, what is with this #7 cylinder.. why does everybody keep having problems with it when boosting?
because it doesn't like boost...

mine:



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Oh man.. that sucks! So it's pretty common over 8#'s or 500HP then?
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Originally Posted by M-Ten
Oh man.. that sucks! So it's pretty common over 8#'s or 500HP then?
So it would seem.
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I was told it was ALL in the tune, and as long as you keep the knock out, you can run as much boost as you want..?
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well trust me thats not true i had 5 psi and what i thought was a good tune mad something like 5xx at the will lasted for like 6 weeks then i lost.......number 1?? i thought for sure it would be #7 but nope also man remember this when on a stock bottom end it not a matter of "if" if "when"
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well trust me thats not true i had 5 psi and what i thought was a good tune mad something like 5xx at the will lasted for like 6 weeks then i lost.......number 1?? i thought for sure it would be #7 but nope also man remember this when on a stock bottom end it not a matter of "if" if "when"
You made over 500HP with 5#'s?
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Originally Posted by M-Ten
Oh ok cool, no problems at all?
No problems at all. But I bought my car new and I knew what I had for the get go. Its different If you buy the car used because you never know what you end up with.
I also don't race every dummy at every stop light and no track either. All of that helps. If you keep the boost at 8 pounds of boost with a solid tune along with the supporting cast your engine should last. Emphasis on SHOULD.
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a friend with a 2000 SS put down 510 through a M6 with bolt ons a patrick G custom cam and 4.4# of boost on a D1 unit.

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Originally Posted by M-Ten
I know the general rule is no more than 500HP on stock LS1 internals.. And with a procharger, that's around 8lbs. of boost I believe..

My question is, how many people have ran over 8lbs, or over 500HP on stock internals with no problems?

I want to see if I can go past that 500 mark, with a perfect tune, and have it be reliable.

Also, who has tried to run it over 500HP or 8lbs and broke something?

Thanks
Honestly it's a shot in the dark on how long you would last. Above 500 you better start saving for a forged bottom end and hope it doesn't take out the block when it goes.
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Originally Posted by M-Ten
Hmm, 11#? Not bad.. what were your numbers looking like?

Also, what is with this #7 cylinder.. why does everybody keep having problems with it when boosting?
The way that i understand it, i'm no expert, so if i say this wrong please correct me...

Number 7 has an issue because of the way our manifolds are designed (not designed for boost). The incoming boosted air dose not get dispersed well. Most of the air rushes into the manifold, and hits the back of the manifold, and gets directed to the #7 cylinder. So that cylinder runs leaner than others, and hence the reason its the first to go on a stock motor.

This is also why the tune is important, you need to make sure there is enough fuel going to it, while keeping in mind that the #7 will (because of the design) run leaner

My tuning is this friday, I'm on the stock bottom, I should be over 500HP to the wheels. Depending what it puts down, ill be putting a meth kit on it for added safety.

And i should mention with all that I am already saving for a new short block, as stated earlier, its not "if" its gonna go, its "when"

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