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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 02:58 PM
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Alright here's my setup to start with, i have a Forged 370 Short Block, Stock 317 heads, 220/216 116 LSA Cam and a ITS 72mm with a .96 A/R

I was on forced Inductions Website today reading compressor maps and it looks like i'm only gonna get 10psi out of this thing

Is that right???

So i started looking and searching and i am thinking that i'm gonna have to jump to an ST80 but with or without race cover and what do ya'll think???
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Pick up the phone and call said turbo company, you're definitely mis-interpreting the compressor map.

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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 03:58 PM
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What RPM do you plan to shift at?

I think an ST-80 would be overkill for your setup, A properly sized TC-76-78 would be better.
FI even has a sale on the 78mm TC units for 999.00 right now..
https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-induction/916894-new-turbo-tc-product-update.html
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Pick up the phone and call said turbo company, you're definitely mis-interpreting the compressor map.

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I Thought so at first but i want to set my Shift points above 6500 so that equates to 62lbs at 10psi and 70lbs at 12psi

so i looked at the T72 map and with a Pressure ratio of 1.68 the turbo is well beyond the right side of the graph and at 1.82P/R i'm still not at the required 70lbs
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Originally Posted by ZZebes
I Thought so at first but i want to set my Shift points above 6500 so that equates to 62lbs at 10psi and 70lbs at 12psi

so i looked at the T72 map and with a Pressure ratio of 1.68 the turbo is well beyond the right side of the graph and at 1.82P/R i'm still not at the required 70lbs
How much boost do you want to run?
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Originally Posted by Derek @ EDO
How much boost do you want to run?
20ish lbs
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whats the primary purpose for this car? street or track? that will decide alot. i say 88mm with a 370ci motor. been there, ran that................

Kyle
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Originally Posted by NA$TY-TA
whats the primary purpose for this car? street or track? that will decide alot. i say 88mm with a 370ci motor. been there, ran that................

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Street, and i don't think i could fit an 88mm under the hood lol
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Originally Posted by ZZebes
Street, and i don't think i could fit an 88mm under the hood lol
Well, 20 PSI with shift points in the 6500 range will require an 80+mm snail.
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Originally Posted by Derek @ EDO
Well, 20 PSI with shift points in the 6500 range will require an 80+mm snail.
Yup
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If I can fit a 98mm under the hood, you can fit an 88. Don't be afraid to do a "little" cutting.
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Originally Posted by Mr.MartyStone
If I can fit a 98mm under the hood, you can fit an 88. Don't be afraid to do a "little" cutting.
Yeah but i'm running out of sawzall blades
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Originally Posted by Mr.MartyStone
If I can fit a 98mm under the hood, you can fit an 88. Don't be afraid to do a "little" cutting.
Hehe....yup. No shame in cutting
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Originally Posted by ZZebes
I Thought so at first but i want to set my Shift points above 6500 so that equates to 62lbs at 10psi and 70lbs at 12psi

so i looked at the T72 map and with a Pressure ratio of 1.68 the turbo is well beyond the right side of the graph and at 1.82P/R i'm still not at the required 70lbs
Its not that it won;t make more boost....what happens when you dive off the compressor map is the outlet temps will soar and efficency drops like a rock. Also when it drops, that means turbine speed has to then be much higher per psi gained, which also means back pressure climbs FAST. Its all about a complete system on a turbo, which means both the intake and exhaust have to work together.
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Originally Posted by DrTurbo
Its not that it won;t make more boost....what happens when you dive off the compressor map is the outlet temps will soar and efficency drops like a rock. Also when it drops, that means turbine speed has to then be much higher per psi gained, which also means back pressure climbs FAST. Its all about a complete system on a turbo, which means both the intake and exhaust have to work together.
Yeah i know it

I am really trying to stay in effeciency range, i may have a deal to get an ITS 80mm for now as an almost trade for my 72mm so that should do a touch better till i get the fundage for a 85+
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