APS TT Tubing Problems
are you guys building miata smashing autocross cars or highway bullets?.. 
J/K I like my sway bars.....
Perhaps maybe a few shims can be put between the tube brackets and the swaybar bracket to steal back some clearance? easy fix if so... looks like it in the pictures ws6taguy posted above.
never seen the kit personally so I only have the above pictures to go by.
Chris
J/K I like my sway bars.....Perhaps maybe a few shims can be put between the tube brackets and the swaybar bracket to steal back some clearance? easy fix if so... looks like it in the pictures ws6taguy posted above.
never seen the kit personally so I only have the above pictures to go by.
Chris
Hello there fellow LS1 junkies. My name is Adam, i am not new to this board just have never posted anything on my old account. I have had the APS twin turbo kit in my car for quite a while, I got one of the first 50 thanks to Peter
I have had a shop called zeus performance put the kit in my car along with a new.... err basically everything from motor to rear end.
I have had a shop called zeus performance put the kit in my car along with a new.... err basically everything from motor to rear end.Another suggestion is too mark out the area on the duct where there's contact from the sway bar and then remove the pipe from the car and then press the pipe in order to gain some additional clearance.
Hope that helps,
Peter
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Staging Lane
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peter, thank you again for getting back to me,
i am not sure what you mean by pressing the pipe? you mean bend it? a SS pipe? im not quite sure how to do that but i will ask my welder i dont know how much luck bending SS its not a very flexible metal. and with the current condition of the tubes on my car i dont know if welding them and then trying to modify it after that. the main problem i am having is not that it is bent like everyone else but that it moved so much it is cracked almost half way around the pipe.
I sent you a PM please respond if you have read it or not.
i am not sure what you mean by pressing the pipe? you mean bend it? a SS pipe? im not quite sure how to do that but i will ask my welder i dont know how much luck bending SS its not a very flexible metal
. and with the current condition of the tubes on my car i dont know if welding them and then trying to modify it after that. the main problem i am having is not that it is bent like everyone else but that it moved so much it is cracked almost half way around the pipe.I sent you a PM please respond if you have read it or not.
My vehicle IS lowered FWIW
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No, as i have told APS i have stock suspension. I have replaved the shocks about a year ago but everything else is the same. I do believe my sway bar although stock is a bit bigger due to the ws6 package. again amazing that the couple of you with lowered suspension have not had more serious problems with clearance. why me 
maybe ill go to to the local 4 wheel parts center and have my car lifted
maybe ill go to to the local 4 wheel parts center and have my car lifted
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No, as i have told APS i have stock suspension. I have replaved the shocks about a year ago but everything else is the same. I do believe my sway bar although stock is a bit bigger due to the ws6 package. again amazing that the couple of you with lowered suspension have not had more serious problems with clearance. why me
maybe ill go to to the local 4 wheel parts center and have my car lifted
maybe ill go to to the local 4 wheel parts center and have my car lifted
Mine was actually rattling in the front pretty badly from the contact. NOT lowered, but I have Hotchkis sways so......
I haven't found a solution yet, but I may try shorter endlinks and spacers soon.
For now I just wrapped carpet around my sways!
I haven't found a solution yet, but I may try shorter endlinks and spacers soon.
For now I just wrapped carpet around my sways!
Ok guys as i said before i heard a noise going down the road when i would hit bumps and really had no idea what it was until this thread was up. Today i had time so i looked under the car and this is what i found check out the pics. I must say i'm really up set after all the work i put into the car installing this kit and spending the money we all did on this kit. The dents on my pipes from the sway bar are not as bad as ws6taguy's but there bad enough especially the driver side. Now if you can believe it i've only driven the car three times since its been done a month ago. It is not a daily driver. What gets me is that Peter had stated "If you lower the car then the clearance between the two parts will be reduced by some degree. In this case the sway bar links need to be shortened to gain sufficient clearance." why didn't he state this in the instructions about a lowered car. Now i have a kit on the car thats brand new and drove it three times and it looks like a kit that was abused that i bought on ebay for $500. I hope APS can stand by there Quality products and help us all out this situation.
Peter can you please PM me with a solution to this problem
Peter can you please PM me with a solution to this problem
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Staging Lane
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right isnt that always the case.
apparantly the answer from APS is to modify the end links. even though it does throw off the angle of the sway bar and it is not discussed anywhere in the instructions about modifying it. apparantly that is what has to be done. and if we all had installers that were not complete idoits
then none of us would have this problem.
This to me is only a temporary fix, i am going to be looking into making solid brackets to mount to the frame to lower the bar about 2-3 inches. It looks on the APS car there is a lot of room when the car is up on a lift, but then again up on a lift my car looks like it has it a lot of room also, then i set it down and it is almost right on it
NASTY- Thank you for posting pictures!!!!!!
apparantly the answer from APS is to modify the end links. even though it does throw off the angle of the sway bar and it is not discussed anywhere in the instructions about modifying it. apparantly that is what has to be done. and if we all had installers that were not complete idoits
then none of us would have this problem.This to me is only a temporary fix, i am going to be looking into making solid brackets to mount to the frame to lower the bar about 2-3 inches. It looks on the APS car there is a lot of room when the car is up on a lift, but then again up on a lift my car looks like it has it a lot of room also, then i set it down and it is almost right on it
NASTY- Thank you for posting pictures!!!!!!
You guys that are lowered or have an aftermarket sway need to give APS a break. They can't possible design the kit to work with every possible suspension configuration. If they had to design a kit that worked around every possible suspension/sway bar modification, then we wouldn't have a kit to buy.
Now if the kit is hitting the swaybar on a stock height car with stock suspension, that is a different story.
It sounds like most if not all of the people with problem have same type of suspension modification.
Now if the kit is hitting the swaybar on a stock height car with stock suspension, that is a different story.
It sounds like most if not all of the people with problem have same type of suspension modification.
No, as i have told APS i have stock suspension. I have replaved the shocks about a year ago but everything else is the same. I do believe my sway bar although stock is a bit bigger due to the ws6 package. again amazing that the couple of you with lowered suspension have not had more serious problems with clearance. why me
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I am kind of glad I haven't put my APS kit on yet. The info on this forum will give me some things to closely look at when I am installing my kit.
ok here is my argument on the lowered cars. Who out there doesn't lower there car? i'm sure about 90% or more of the people on this forum lowered there car. Also what about the cars that have drag setups with coil overs etc. i'm not knocking APS the kit is a great kit and my car is running strong on 7PSI but this problem is like the arteries to your heart when the break or burst your done. When those intercooler pipes crack thats it man. this is not just a simple thing. WS6 John your lucky you haven't installed your kit yet. your finding out all the problems before hand and you'll be able to work on them and not have these problems. Now for people like myself and the other guys on this forum that have the same problem we have to customize things to make it work. The reason why i bought this kit was so i didn't have to customize anything on the car. i just hope Peter and the crew at APS can help all of us fix this problem
You guys that are lowered or have an aftermarket sway need to give APS a break. They can't possible design the kit to work with every possible suspension configuration. If they had to design a kit that worked around every possible suspension/sway bar modification, then we wouldn't have a kit to buy.
Now if the kit is hitting the swaybar on a stock height car with stock suspension, that is a different story.
It sounds like most if not all of the people with problem have same type of suspension modification.
Now if the kit is hitting the swaybar on a stock height car with stock suspension, that is a different story.
It sounds like most if not all of the people with problem have same type of suspension modification.