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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 09:00 AM
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Where I live in virginia they are starting to sell 10% ethanol at all of our gas stations. Ive heard a lot of different things but im wonderin what this will do to the perfomance and gas milage of my car, also will it require more maintanence?

Do you think some gas stations will still sell regular gasoline?
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 10:51 AM
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reduced performance, worse mileage
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 11:15 AM
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if same octane then same performance, worse mileage, hopefully lower price
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 04:29 PM
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How much worse do you think my performance or gas mileage could be?
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 04:50 PM
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you might be able to feel the loss, mpg will drop anywhere from 1-3..depending on the vehicle, dont use that **** if you can help it...i wouldnt use that crap to start fires with
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 04:56 PM
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Do you think some gas sations will sell ethanol-free gas, like some speciality or independent stations? or will all of them go ethanol
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 07:21 PM
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If you look at the Chevy website and compare the E85 fuel mileage to gasoline, you'll be down about 20% with E85. Even though its a little cheaper I dont think its worth it.
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 07:43 PM
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all of us will be converting to this new 10% ethenol b/c MTBE pollutes the water and this changeover is part of the reason for increased gas prices on the east coast right now, particularly NJ.
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Alright i heard all gas stations will have to sell the 10% ethanol because of the damn goverment.
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settle down guys, e-85 is better, just hang on and you will see.
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what?
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what what?
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what ? what ? what ?.......am i winning ?
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MIGHTYMOUSE
settle down guys, e-85 is better, just hang on and you will see.

He's right. If all new vehicles come designed from the factory to run on E85, manufactuers should be able to make just as much power with about the same fuel mileage as gasonline. Since Ethanol has a higher octane rating than gasoline, it allows for raised compression ratios and more advanced timing. It als allows you to run more boost in F/I applications.

Obviously E85 is going to make less power and get worse fuel economy when used in a dual-fuel vehicle, as the engine is primarily designed to run on gasoline. But in an engine designed specifically for E85, the results should be much better.
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gas prices are rising steeper in the good old states! cali and new york have had 10% ethanol in the travel months for some time now. it is how ever a federal law for this year that ALL states use a 10% mix during the travel season. in the winter however in ny we switch back to good old fashion gas. the straight gas IS cheaper than the 10% ethanol crap they force on us. welcome to a good old fashion *** ******* you southerners. cali and ny have bent over long enough. pretty soon you guys you'll have a sniffer test too!!!!!!!!!! ethanol cost more to transport........ always more excuses to charge us more! its called e10=10% ethanol
e85= 85% ethanol
e95= 95% ethanol (for diesels)
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If we subsidized middle easterners by billions of dollars per year, then spent an equal amount killing corn farmers, I wonder which fuel would look more attractive?
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Old Apr 24, 2006 | 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Domestic Demon
He's right. If all new vehicles come designed from the factory to run on E85, manufactuers should be able to make just as much power with about the same fuel mileage as gasonline. Since Ethanol has a higher octane rating than gasoline, it allows for raised compression ratios and more advanced timing. It als allows you to run more boost in F/I applications.

Obviously E85 is going to make less power and get worse fuel economy when used in a dual-fuel vehicle, as the engine is primarily designed to run on gasoline. But in an engine designed specifically for E85, the results should be much better.
what this guys said!
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Old Apr 24, 2006 | 09:04 PM
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i feel no difference in houston one of the exxon station by my house has ethanol mixed gas and did not really notice a diff. I think Cheveron makes great gas! Also DONT by Citgo gas all it does is put money towards jugo chavez's gov. in venezuela.
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LOL!!!
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I think there is some confusion in this thread... E85 isa completly idfferent fuel than what is being described in this thread...

ALL GAS IN WYOMING IS 10% ethonal. THIS IS NOT E85...!!!! E85 is 85% Ethonal, not 10%.

You all think you have it bad eveyrwhere else... all we can get in wyoming is 91 octane with 10% ethonal..... :-/....
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