You're putting down some impressive numbers ^.

 

Sweet, I've already got a Racetronix intank setup and the new intake came with ls7 injectors. Going to be running a 457cid. Was wondering what it would take to run corn, so there arent any engine seal issues or anything like that?

 

No problems with water here.

 

No one around me even sell E85. I saw one place in GA and they were only 0.06 a gallon cheaper. Not worth it right now.

Bill

 

Thank you. I do have some belt slip issues to still work out though.

 

Runn:

I'm a MIS student @ KSU and I am writing a persuasive research paper on E85. (Persuading High Performance Auto Enthusiasts to switch to E85) and I was wondering if you could answer a few more questions on the subject.

* Did you by chance Dyno before/after? Notice any horsepower increase?
* How much did the conversion cost you?
* Do you think in the long run you will gain more power?
* How long do you think it will take you to pay off the change in parts (injectors, etc) due to your gas savings?

Feel free to answer whichever questions you want and if you'll give me your name I'll make sure to cite you in the paper. I'll also email you a copy of the paper after I turn it in.


Eric
eriley[at]ksu.edu

Also, I have not read the whole thread yet but I just printed it out and will be reading it over the weekend.

 

horse power would of gone down. e-85 burns hotter so you lose power. but you can run higher compression so it might make more power in the long run. also you gas mileage goes down. i have heard 20-30%, someone might have to help me on that number.
but on a side note. i think e-85 is the best.

 

are u an idiot?...........seriously im asking

 

alcohol burns cooler and in this thread it says 10% more hp

 

and that is why with all the flex fuel cars on the road. they drop gas milage and horse powere when they switch from 87 to e-85. and i think all the big car companines have more time and money into research then all use little people. no i am not an idiot. just look the **** up.

 

and the only way you will pick up horse is by adjusting the timing. cuase you are basicly running 100+oct. i don't want some big pissy fight to start on this form. that isn't why RUNN started this post. and if some one is getting horse buy just putting e-85 in. maybe you want to send that info to GM or something.

 

Those idiots have no idea.

Check this out and contact him with any questions you have:
http://rune85.com/

I have no problems running E85/E70 in my car for three years now. It sure makes FI more fun.

 

First off I believe RedLT1Z was directing his questions towards Runn or anyone else that has currently run e-85 for quit sometime, and it appears to me you have not personally run it, so how would you have accurate answers other than through your friend... Also the response you gave him didn't answers his questions either.

Secondly, have you read this entire thread or are you just as lazy as the rest of the people that are asking questions that have already been answered in this thread...

Of course flex-fuel cars drop in gas mileage when they use E-85, it takes approximately 20-30% more e-85 to put out the same power output as gasoline because it burns cooler. Also big car companies have "kind of" had more time than us little people, there are a lot of littler companies that have been using it to tune for quit sometime, but they are not trying to use e-85 as a performance booster, they are using it as a fuel alternative, that is all. So why would they put more research into using e-85 if it is already doing the job they intended it to do, there is really no way around the mpg drop and they are putting the message out that they are trying to be eco-friendly.

The second quote I will agree with you on. The reason for the horsepower increase is because of the opportunity it gives you to advance timing far beyond what you can with gasoline without detonation and to have a higher compression. And also e-85 is basically running 100+ octane, in fact it is 105 octane.

I am neither trying to argue with you or trying to start a big pissy fight. I am nearly just elaborating on some of your answers.

P.S.: I "just looked the **** up:

 

My stock truck with stock timing sure feels like it picked up a bit hp. Flex fuel vehicles are not optimised to run on E-85, just the way most vehicles are not optimised to run on regular gas. That is why people pick up hp and gas milage on stock cars by tuning them. The manufactures give you a middle of the road tune not one based on max power. My research was done by useing E-85 in my car and truck. You can look up all the, so called facts you want. Until you try it yourself you just wont know. Who's facts will you believe. Ever hear of global warming.

 

^^^ Agreed!!!

 

so it is out there i ain't lazy, but no i have not read most of the thread. all i care about is that my tuner knows what he is doing. i am using it cause i don't trust 91 oct with meth for my boosted car. and i can run higher compression. i am planning on running 10:1 compression with around 18psi on e-85. (fuel system sucks *** on price)

but since i have not read everything and the thread is where it is. could some one please inform me.
I have heard that it requires 20-30% more fuel. and some say it uses 30-40% more fuel. which is it?

 

The 20-30 % is just range... it all depends on what your setup is. Some cars may only use 15% more... some may use 30% more. Especially with FI they are probalby running a little rich just to be as safe as can be.

 

I read through the e85forum.com posts once-and-awhile and I remembered reading about someone getting no loss in mpg when switching to e85, so I went looking around to try and find it. The company called SwRI was able to to achieve no loss in mpg through increasing compression, adding two more catalytic converters, and using fuel injectors that better atomized the fuel and a few other little things. It also says that it has been able to meet ULEV Standards (Ultra-Low Emission Vehicle). Here is a link to the thread and there is a link inside to the company's research and findings:

E85 CAN Be As Fuel Efficient As Gasloine

 

Appreciate it brother, I've done my research and trust me I know what a 'credible source' is. I think Runn's write up is moderately credible but I won't be citing any comments in this thread I don't know if I'll even mention Runn's thread, it depends on how many sources I find.

 

No Problem, I know there is a lot of information out there and a lot in here. If I were writing the paper I wouldn't use this thread so much as factual information, even though a lot of it is true and thankfully hasn't really been mucked up with a lot of nonsense, but rather as a real life example. I would also use the site that I posted above your post for some good information to use for your paper. It just proves E-85 can be just as efficient as gasoline with the right amount of time invested.