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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 06:01 PM
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Was there a big difference in the NOx, HC, and CO readings?

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I can't seem to locate my old E-test. But here are the results from my new one. And again, my injectors aren't being completely controlled so there was a bit of extra fuel being dumped in at close throttle, as well as my FAST intake leaking.

HC GPM 1.1434 LIMITS are 1.2000
CO GPM 7.6535 LIMITs are 20.000
CO2 GPM 493.3505
NOx GPM 1.7800 LIMITS are 3.000

My failed test has this comparison
TYPICAL PASSING CAR My Car
HC .32 G/MI 1.89 G/MI
CO 4.66 G/MI 16.34 G/MI
NOx 1.50 G/MI 1.54 G/MI

I am assuming the GPM and G/MI are grams per mile and I don't know what a TYPICAL PASSING CAR is. Could be a four cylinder or maybe my make and model. Looking at the printout from the failed test it appears the CO2 and NOx are inline with what they should be even with the extra fuel and a vacuum leak.
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Mia
add higher compression pistons or mill the heads and take advantage of the higher octane rating
I know this is late, but I have a set of Patriot LS6 Stg2 head what the chamber was reworked to 59cc. I know that would help, but I wanted to wait till I do my 383 for the TransAm.
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by vaticano
I can't seem to locate my old E-test. But here are the results from my new one. And again, my injectors aren't being completely controlled so there was a bit of extra fuel being dumped in at close throttle, as well as my FAST intake leaking.

HC GPM 1.1434 LIMITS are 1.2000
CO GPM 7.6535 LIMITs are 20.000
CO2 GPM 493.3505
NOx GPM 1.7800 LIMITS are 3.000

My failed test has this comparison
TYPICAL PASSING CAR My Car
HC .32 G/MI 1.89 G/MI
CO 4.66 G/MI 16.34 G/MI
NOx 1.50 G/MI 1.54 G/MI

I am assuming the GPM and G/MI are grams per mile and I don't know what a TYPICAL PASSING CAR is. Could be a four cylinder or maybe my make and model. Looking at the printout from the failed test it appears the CO2 and NOx are inline with what they should be even with the extra fuel and a vacuum leak.
So did your car pass?
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 07:03 PM
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So did your car pass?
Yes. I had to tweak a few things and make it run 15% lean.
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Originally Posted by vaticano
I picked up 2 MPG in my 05 Sierra by altering the tranny settings.
What did you change on your truck's tranny setting to pick the extra economy?
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by vaticano
Yes. I had to tweak a few things and make it run 15% lean.
Sorry, I am in a state that current doesn't have a emmission test. What is all involve in the test and how did you passing test compare to the standard?
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Gold Phoenix
What did you change on your truck's tranny setting to pick the extra economy?
Shift points, fluid pressure. I don't remember everything, but if you read this thread it will explain. http://forum.efilive.com/showthread....=tranny+tuning
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 07:57 PM
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Sorry, I am in a state that current doesn't have a emmission test. What is all involve in the test and how did you passing test compare to the standard?
They put the car on a dyno and simulate a short drive and vary the speed from 0-60 mph with one stop in the middle. It takes about 4 min. All the while they gather the emmisions from the tail pipe. These are the standards we need to meet.

My readings:---------------- State Standards:
HC GPM 1.1434 ------------- LIMITS are 1.2000
CO GPM 7.6535 ------------- LIMITs are 20.000
CO2 GPM 493.3505 -----------
NOx GPM 1.7800 ----------------- LIMITS are 3.000

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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 08:13 PM
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Shift points, fluid pressure. I don't remember everything, but if you read this thread it will explain. http://forum.efilive.com/showthread....=tranny+tuning
Does it screw up the warranty if say it goes out at 50K miles an they see you tweaked your tune or tapped into the computer?

I have not had time to upload the truck tune yet, but I will soon though. It gets 20-23 on the hwy at the moment. But, in town it sux *****!
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by waterbug1999
Does it screw up the warranty if say it goes out at 50K miles an they see you tweaked your tune or tapped into the computer?

I have not had time to upload the truck tune yet, but I will soon though. It gets 20-23 on the hwy at the moment. But, in town it sux *****!
I would have to say yes, they would void the warranty, if they know. I have heard that GM will be modifing the PCM so that they can tell that it has been messed with. At the moment I do not believe they can.
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I would have to say yes, they would void the warranty, if they know. I have heard that GM will be modifing the PCM so that they can tell that it has been messed with. At the moment I do not believe they can.
Well, I suppose I could throw the stock tune back in...

How does this said tranny adjustment work with towing?
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 09:04 PM
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Well, I suppose I could throw the stock tune back in...

How does this said tranny adjustment work with towing?
Not sure. I have a button for towing I believe makes similar adjustments as the ones you would make for performance. It holds the gear longer and shifts harder/faster. Check your tune it should have a separate set of setting for towing/performance.
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Not sure. I have a button for towing I believe makes similar adjustments as the ones you would make for performance. It holds the gear longer and shifts harder/faster. Check your tune it should have a separate set of setting for towing/performance.
Yea, I have that little button as well..
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 09:27 PM
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Yea, I have that little button as well..
Just use the button when towing, it will over-ride the setting you changed. But make sure you don't change the parameters in the towing section in your tranny settings.
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Originally Posted by vaticano
Just use the button when towing, it will over-ride the setting you changed. But make sure you don't change the parameters in the towing section in your tranny settings.

gotcha.
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Old Jun 20, 2008 | 02:59 PM
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wow this write-up has been around for a while and im just seeing it now! really cant wait to use this e85 and see how it runs!
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Old Jun 21, 2008 | 01:21 AM
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My mustang couldn't even run E10. lol.
I'm surprised that the Z's hold up well on E85. I'll stick with the brands of clean gas I know and love because they DON'T have ethanol in them for now.
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I don't know if someone has said this already, but there are a couple gas station that state the regular grade has 10% ethanol, but they are the same price if not just a couple cents less than a good brand of gas like Shell or BP. I always use BP in the Strip car and E85 in the TransAm.
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Quick question for you guys running E85. With an LT1, to get 30% more fuel, I have to change the injector constant to 'trick' the PCM to give the extra fuel needed for E85.

My question is this: With gas injector constant of 31.68# (30# SVO's) do I multiply by .7 (22.18#) or divide by 1.3 (24.37#)? I assume divide by 1.3 so that when the PCM assumes that it is fueling 24.37#, it is really putting out the 31.68# of the injectors, or 30% more than 24.37#?

Just wondering which calculation is correct or everyone else is using?
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Old Jul 6, 2008 | 03:28 AM
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Runn, are you open or closeloop tuned? if closed loop, wouldnt it auto. see the rich exh. (in the scenario above) and just command less fuel for part throttle driving?
Yes, and it works fine.
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