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Old 12-16-2010, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BLWNLT1_T/A
what do those kits run?
I would like some prices to.
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Originally Posted by 96lt4c4
I would like some prices to.
i'd like prices, cause i have been thinking about doing this for a while now, and with winter here, theres no better time!
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Might just have to do a group buy here and hook all you guys up at once or something.

Looking at this picture here I can explain better what you will be getting.



Items will be raw just bare laser cut items that will need to be welded together.
Panhard bar bracket assembly
Spring perch
Lca relocation bracket assembly
sway bar mounts

If you choose to do the torque arm package that includes all hardware and weld on tabs you will be getting these items.
Torque arm long or short of your choice
Bolt in cross member to suit your needs, short will have drive shaft loop
Pivot link
All heim joints and adjusters including nuts bolts and bushing for the pivot link

If anyone has any questions just shoot me a PM.
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Originally Posted by MidwestChassis
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I would like pricing too please.
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I found 3 today at my local pull-a-part. They have a set price of $100.00. All 3 were in 69-70 ford trucks and all the same width. Someone had pulled the tags off them so I dont know what the gear ratios are. I found this on the web and am guessing its from the backing plate flange.

1957-1972 Ford pickup 9-inch housing width: 56"

Whats the 4th gen width backing plate flange to flange?

I am picking up an extra 7.5 for $100.00 to cut everything off of while I am there. I found a Firebird that looked pretty clean underneath, no rusty bolts, so I am going to pull the rear out of it.
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Looks like the 3 I found are going to be too narrow. They measure 61 1/4" axel to axel. Our cars are around 64 and 3/4. I would need one out of a 73-86 f 150 they measure 65".
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You could run rims with less back spacing and use the narrower rear. The stock rear runs 7.5 inches of back spacing so if you were 3.5" narrower total you could run 5.5 BS on both sides and be good (if the 1/4" extra clears ok).
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Originally Posted by Valkyn
You could run rims with less back spacing and use the narrower rear. The stock rear runs 7.5 inches of back spacing so if you were 3.5" narrower total you could run 5.5 BS on both sides and be good (if the 1/4" extra clears ok).
I would like to run the stock rims for now, I just checked their web site and they have a few trucks that fall in the right year range, so I will just have to look and see what they have. The have an Antique section and that is where I found the 3 I found today. They have a few early 80's models that are supose to have the right length in there. I will just have to look.
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Check out what I scored today got both of them for 146.00! I thought they were going to be 100.00 a piece. It looks it might be a pain to cut the bracket off the 7.5, if its too much trouble I will buy the MWC brackets. The 9 is out of a 73 ford f100 ford truck. The 73 to around 86 trucks are the right length for the 4th gen, they are just a little wider about 3/4 to 7/8. The early ones seem to have the big wheel bearings. The later ones had smaller wheel bearings and 29 spline axels. Mine has the large outer wheel bearings and 31 spline axels. For anyone wanting to look for one of these, you can tell if it has the large bearings by looking at the ends of the tubes. If the tube is the same width all the way to the backing plate then its a big bearing, if it tapers at the end then its the smaller one. This one doesnt have the posi nor the gear I want so I will have to deal with that.








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I drilled a hole in the bottom of the housing to drain the oil. I was suprised at how thick the housing is. I could probably just tap it and put a plug in. Put I will weld a 3/4 nut to it and use a bolt as a plug.
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Cool man eager to see how it goes!
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Is there a trick to counting splines. I counted them last night but was counting the top of the spline not the inside or 'V". I looked at this site last night for some prices and they are saying the rear should have 28 spline axels. I recounted this morning and counting the "V" or root of the spline I get 31.

http://www.accuautoparts.com/axleinfo.jsp?sr=1

For some reason this site does not start showing the 31 spline until 75. Maybe the yard had the year on the truck wrong or someone had changed the rear on the truck at some point.

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you are going to have to use allen head bolts to fasten your backing plates to the 9". Grind one side of the head to clear the tube. get 1 1/2 long bolts.
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Originally Posted by need4fun2469
you are going to have to use allen head bolts to fasten your backing plates to the 9". Grind one side of the head to clear the tube. get 1 1/2 long bolts.
Thanks for the heads up, I have been doing research on making the the ls1 brakes work. I am either going to have to buy Moser housing ends or weld the holes up on the Ford ends and redrill for the LS1 7.5" patern. Also the ford brake backspacing is different then the chevy so I will have to address that somehow. I have read that the ford is 2.5" and the chevy is 2.75". But I havent measured to confirm that yet.
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Originally Posted by 96lt4c4
Thanks for the heads up, I have been doing research on making the the ls1 brakes work. I am either going to have to buy Moser housing ends or weld the holes up on the Ford ends and redrill for the LS1 7.5" patern. Also the ford brake backspacing is different then the chevy so I will have to address that somehow. I have read that the ford is 2.5" and the chevy is 2.75". But I havent measured to confirm that yet.
I just went through this process with a 9" I put togther. I ended up with a hybrid parking brake set-up but it works well. I'mm using the LS1 calipers and rotors on a modified Ford backing plate.
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nice i just built one for someone a couple months ago. kinda wished would have known about the brackt package from midwest. i used stock brackets but had to be trimmed down a bit though.
also i used the moser housing ends setup for GM brakes. real nice peices and made it simple. just watch the heat from welding it pulls the housing a good bit
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Originally Posted by bgblockelcamino
nice i just built one for someone a couple months ago. kinda wished would have known about the brackt package from midwest. i used stock brackets but had to be trimmed down a bit though.
also i used the moser housing ends setup for GM brakes. real nice peices and made it simple. just watch the heat from welding it pulls the housing a good bit


How do these work? Do you cut the factory ford ends off and weld these on? They show a couple differnet ends on their site that have the chevy pattern. Not sure which ones I would need.

Also did you use the stock axels or buy new. Just trying to figure out hoe to make the brake backspacing work.


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