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Old Mar 12, 2011 | 04:19 PM
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Ok heres the question. Which way would you go??? Add a stall convertor or lower gears?? I have 3.23s in an 02 SS and I know the stall will pick it up more than some 3.73 gears but is the stall the way to go or not for the money. I can get some new 3.73s installed out the door for $500.00 to $600.00. The stall will cost twice that after u figure flexplate and cooler and everything else and of course your stock 4l60e will go out after the install. Is the gear worth it or is the stall worth it. What is the most bang for the money? Please chime in if you have experience either way. Opinions please Not a race car its a street car with basic bolt-ons.
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Old Mar 12, 2011 | 06:37 PM
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i am in the exact same boat as you ... i got 2.73's and a 1995 formula those are the only differences .... i am leaning to a stall cause the 10bolt is a weak rear. you spent $600 and then it breaks then your out that money and have to buy a new rear ... replace it with a 10bolt(less money) or up grade and it wont break again. both choices cost a lot of money.

stall: find a tight on that is like 3600+ and it can drive like normal with a minor tune

start up cost = more with stall

gears = less but more risk for broken parts
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Old Mar 12, 2011 | 06:43 PM
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Either one is gonna break ****, but I would do gears since theyare cheaper and dont require a tune except maybe for the speedometer cal. The 10bolt is fine if your just a bolt on motor. Start putting slicks on it and it's a different story. Go with the gears man. I did mine but i went with 410 and IMO, it's the biggest bang for the buck.
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Old Mar 12, 2011 | 08:57 PM
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Gears first... Then build a High performance transmission with hi stall & add the trans cooler. You will also need a rear end later.

Johnny at Extreme transmissions builds an awesome transmission.
He is an F Body trans specialist.
Great price shippped to you.

I went with a Rev Maxx 3400 stall converter from e bay for 299.00
Make sure to retain lock up feature with converter for good MPG.

I now have a Midwest Chassis Fab 9 rear end.
Im very happy with eveything. Well worth the money.
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Old Mar 13, 2011 | 08:06 AM
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interesting results depending upon which forum the results are coming in.
this same question by the OP in the auto trans forum yielded 3 for stall and 0 for gears.
in this gears & axles forum it's just the opposite,2 for gears and 0 for stalls.
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Old Mar 13, 2011 | 08:20 AM
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I posted a thread asking 3000 stall or 3:73s a couple of weeks ago....you should serch the forum for it...I went with the gears, but I also had 2:73s. Their was 5 pages of opinions,and then I updated it a week ago when the install was done... you should check it out. If you have 3:23s you should get a stall...You'll pick up close to nothing swaping out 23s to 73s..a stall will give you way better performace gains then gears....If you were in the same boat as I was I would say 3:73s all day, but you already have a decent ratio...Get a stall..
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Old Mar 13, 2011 | 08:44 AM
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screw the gears..they will only pick you up about 1/10th to 2/10ths of a second. Go for the stall you wont be sorry.Bottom line is you are gonna gain alot more with the stall then the gears
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Old Mar 13, 2011 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by EDS01SS
screw the gears..they will only pick you up about 1/10th to 2/10ths of a second. Go for the stall you wont be sorry.Bottom line is you are gonna gain alot more with the stall then the gears


I would go with a stall first. It made the car a lot more fun to drive.
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Originally Posted by ANTICOP RAM AIR
Either one is gonna break ****, but I would do gears since theyare cheaper and dont require a tune except maybe for the speedometer cal. The 10bolt is fine if your just a bolt on motor. Start putting slicks on it and it's a different story. Go with the gears man. I did mine but i went with 410 and IMO, it's the biggest bang for the buck.
You will need a tune with gears but not need to with a stall. There is very little tuning with a stall.

Stall is worth every penny.

PM Mike of "Vortech Converters" is his name on here.
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Old Mar 13, 2011 | 09:16 AM
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Why not save for a few moths and do both at the same time?

Or go with the stall first.
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Stall first and put that est $500 for gears and the value of your stock, hopefully unbroken by that point 10 bolt towards a used 12 bolt or 9" and you're 1/2 way there for a major upgrade! My $.02
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Old Mar 13, 2011 | 12:15 PM
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If anything, if you were a m6 you would jump to 4:10s...but not 3:23 to 73s....My 2:73s imao sucked ***, but If I had stock 3:23s I would've loved getting a stall first...had to get rid of my gears first though...big sotp feeling
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Old Mar 13, 2011 | 03:22 PM
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go with the stall man , the gears ya have are great in that car . the conv is the best rt to go and u will deff feel a diff with it , ya may not even notcie the diff with the gears . both are gonna need a tune either way to be really effective
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Old Mar 13, 2011 | 03:27 PM
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not worth it to go to 3.73 for 600 bucks if you got 3.23 in the car already. i would say do your stall 1st and if you really wanted to do gears for cheap just buy an m6 stock 3.42 rear for 150 bucks and swap the whole thing in.
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