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Old Nov 2, 2011 | 11:46 PM
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Next week im swapping out my 2.73 for a 4.10 rear end. I hate the 2.73's and am not worried about gas mileage as car is just a weekend cruiser. What i was wondering is---- I know its not good to shift into 4th at wot, So will i be able to run the 1/4 without shifting into 4th? Whats the max speed at 6k in 3rd gear with 4.10s?
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Old Nov 3, 2011 | 12:22 AM
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You have a while... high 120s low 130s depending on the tire height.
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Old Nov 3, 2011 | 08:08 PM
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You have a while... high 120s low 130s depending on the tire height.
Ok thats good- Im on a stock ws6 rim(2754017) but i was kinda worried i was gonna max 3rd at like 110 or something. thanks
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Old Nov 3, 2011 | 08:13 PM
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Nah, that would be 456 or lower.
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Old Nov 3, 2011 | 11:18 PM
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"...not good to shift into 4th at wot, So will i be able to run the 1/4 without shifting into 4th? Whats the max speed at 6k in 3rd gear with 4.10s?"


111.06 mph @6k rpm @4.10 gear@ 25.5 dia tire@ 3rd gear
go below, figure

http://wallaceracing.com/calcmph.php

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Old Nov 4, 2011 | 04:39 PM
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Wow- i looked at that, then also found fbody.gears.org. Its says about 112 mph at 6k in 3rd. So i guess thats gonna make running the 1/4 a little tricky? 112 would put you no faster than a high 12 i guess. O well im already swapping the rear and i dont race much any way. Should be fun on the streets with the 4.10's - even more so coming from the 2.73 i have now
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Lol should be a blast on the street. You running a stall?
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Lol should be a blast on the street. You running a stall?
No thats my next big mod- My trans has quite a bit of miles, so i dont want to add a stall untill i do a trans rebuild. Im afraid if i add a stall now it would just ruin the trans and then risk ruining the new stall too. Im working on it tho- Id love a good 3600 stall in it
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Originally Posted by zaaronz
No thats my next big mod- My trans has quite a bit of miles, so i dont want to add a stall untill i do a trans rebuild. Im afraid if i add a stall now it would just ruin the trans and then risk ruining the new stall too. Im working on it tho- Id love a good 3600 stall in it

For sure, my last TA was an a-4 stalled with stock gear. It was fun as could be to drive around town.. Good luck with your swap man.
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My A4/TCI2800/4.56s' required going into 4th to finish the 1/4. My current setup is YankSS3600/4.56s'. Haven't run that combo,but that shouldn't change the necessity to shift to 4th because of the 4.56s'. The 4.56s' were put into a spare rearend I had. I'm currently rebuilding my OEM 3.23 rearend to put back in. The 4.56 rearend is gonna get 3.73s'.
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A 26" at 6400rpm or so is low low 130s.
Any taller tire will raise the mph at that rpm.
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Originally Posted by lemons12
A 26" at 6400rpm or so is low low 130s.
Any taller tire will raise the mph at that rpm.
LEMONS, Please do not think I am only tring to create a problem as I may have the wrong info I was told the OE tire 275/40/17 is about 25.5 in dia and the on line programs which I find calulate if useing
26" dia tire x 6400 ( OP is winding to 6k)( is it safe to wind the OE top end to 6400?) X 4.10 x 1.1( 3rd- no OD ) =120MPH

AS I just install 9" with 4.10 I also need to know answer, may I please ask access to the progrom which is stating the above combo will =130 mph

again please forgive if I differ
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Old Nov 4, 2011 | 11:08 PM
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My Camaro with 4.10s with the auto would end 3rd at 110-111 with a 255/50/16 drag radial.

I was hitting OD in the quarter mile.
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Originally Posted by SS SLP2
LEMONS, Please do not think I am only tring to create a problem as I may have the wrong info I was told the OE tire 275/40/17 is about 25.5 in dia and the on line programs which I find calulate if useing
26" dia tire x 6400 ( OP is winding to 6k)( is it safe to wind the OE top end to 6400?) X 4.10 x 1.1( 3rd- no OD ) =120MPH

AS I just install 9" with 4.10 I also need to know answer, may I please ask access to the progrom which is stating the above combo will =130 mph

again please forgive if I differ
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Talking about it is just more info, no sweat my man.

I have no idea how tall his tires are, if that's the case it will be lower obviously. And iirc it may have been high 120s, this has been about 3 years sice I ran that setup... Tires were specd at 26" but I'm sure could have been a 26.5".. Which means mine would have just been a hair more. I know for a fact it cleared 120mph.

Over the years, I have never heard of people having a problem in the 1/4 with 410s.. This is kind of where I'm coming from it being much higher than 110 as these are head cam cars. I am not using a calculator so I would assume your estimates are spot on.. I'm just going from experience.

A stock bottom is good to spin to 6500... After that you're pushing your luck.6200 is playing it safe.
Replace the rod bolts and spin it to 7000-7200.

What size tire are you running and how high are you spinning 3rd?
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http://www.f-body.org/gears/ try that site for figuring out mph and gears for your a4. I run 4.10's behind a a4. On a stock cammed lt1 I shift at 6k. Last night I was trapping 109 with mid 12's and a best of 12.4x's. Under wot you shouldn't be shifting into 4th anyway, I dont believe the pcm will allow it. I have mine tuned that way but I think factor is the same
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Originally Posted by pancho toco loco
http://www.f-body.org/gears/ try that site for figuring out mph and gears for your a4. I run 4.10's behind a a4. On a stock cammed lt1 I shift at 6k. Last night I was trapping 109 with mid 12's and a best of 12.4x's. Under wot you shouldn't be shifting into 4th anyway, I dont believe the pcm will allow it. I have mine tuned that way but I think factor is the same
93' cars will shift into 4th on WOT, we don't have an electronic trans.
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Old Nov 8, 2011 | 03:15 PM
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Yeah i am running a 275-40-17 tire. But with my current mods i guess i wont be running any faster in the 1/4 than 112 anyway. My rear should be installed in a few days- then i guess i'll stick it in 3rd and go find out what it will do
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First of all there are so many factors when determining this equation. As of now you have the stock converter. If you only change the gear, then the fbody.org calculation is great. If you ever put a converter in, then at that point you will have to factor in converter slip and a few more. Put it in and have fun, like you said it's not like you wanna be racing every weekend.
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