Strange S60 Questions UPDATED with Answers!
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Strange S60 Questions UPDATED with Answers!
The bearings in my stock rear end are all shot, and I'm ready to upgrade the rear end with one that won't break at the drag strip, but I don't have $3500. I was considering trying to build a Dana 60, but after looking at Strange's S60, I don't want to try that anymore. It would just be too much of a headache.
So I was looking at their website some more and found this:
https://www.strangeengineering.net/p...d-mounts.html/
My idea is that I could buy this casing and a used Dana 60 and combine the two. In the future, when I have more money, I could buy another differential and a different ring and pinion if I wanted to. For now, I would have a Dana 60 in the car for under $1700 after buying the axles.
Now I have some questions.
1. I have a 2000 M6 with ABS/TCS. That is a 4-channel system, right? This housing says it's drilled for a 3-channel sensor. Yes, the S60 comes with a plug for the 3-channel sensor hole. Route the normal 4-channel wiring as necessary with the correct spacers.
2. If I find a used Dana 60, can I use all of the internal components other than the axles and the side bearing races?
3. Do the rear ends/housings from Strange come with brake lines already installed on them? No, but you can use your stock brake lines with a little force.
4. Is there any reason to get a custom width for a DD?
5. The page says, "Aluminum covers will not fit due to limited vehicle clearances." Does that mean that I can only go with a plain-Jane diff cover? Yes, unless you have removed your factory fuel tank or dented an LT1 (metal) fuel tank, an aluminum diff cover will hit it since it is thicker.
6. The page also says, "98-02 require housing end spacers." Are those something I can take off of my stock rear end with the backing plates? I looked at the two 98-02 spacer links. Which style of bearing would I have? Spacers - no, must purchase with the S60. The tapered bearing is better for a corner carving daily driver. Use the non-tapered style for a drag racer.
7. Is it worth it to have them powder coat the rear end or should I just buy some POR-15 or something like that to prevent corrosion?
8. Is there a way to use my stock driveshaft with a Dana 60 pinion? I'm assuming that as long as the number of splines are the same, I'm okay. No, the S60/Dana 60 pinion/yoke is longer than the stock 10 bolt's is.
9. Will this rear end work with a Watts link? Depending on the size of the axle tubing.
10.What am I missing?
So I was looking at their website some more and found this:
https://www.strangeengineering.net/p...d-mounts.html/
My idea is that I could buy this casing and a used Dana 60 and combine the two. In the future, when I have more money, I could buy another differential and a different ring and pinion if I wanted to. For now, I would have a Dana 60 in the car for under $1700 after buying the axles.
Now I have some questions.
1. I have a 2000 M6 with ABS/TCS. That is a 4-channel system, right? This housing says it's drilled for a 3-channel sensor. Yes, the S60 comes with a plug for the 3-channel sensor hole. Route the normal 4-channel wiring as necessary with the correct spacers.
2. If I find a used Dana 60, can I use all of the internal components other than the axles and the side bearing races?
3. Do the rear ends/housings from Strange come with brake lines already installed on them? No, but you can use your stock brake lines with a little force.
4. Is there any reason to get a custom width for a DD?
5. The page says, "Aluminum covers will not fit due to limited vehicle clearances." Does that mean that I can only go with a plain-Jane diff cover? Yes, unless you have removed your factory fuel tank or dented an LT1 (metal) fuel tank, an aluminum diff cover will hit it since it is thicker.
6. The page also says, "98-02 require housing end spacers." Are those something I can take off of my stock rear end with the backing plates? I looked at the two 98-02 spacer links. Which style of bearing would I have? Spacers - no, must purchase with the S60. The tapered bearing is better for a corner carving daily driver. Use the non-tapered style for a drag racer.
7. Is it worth it to have them powder coat the rear end or should I just buy some POR-15 or something like that to prevent corrosion?
8. Is there a way to use my stock driveshaft with a Dana 60 pinion? I'm assuming that as long as the number of splines are the same, I'm okay. No, the S60/Dana 60 pinion/yoke is longer than the stock 10 bolt's is.
9. Will this rear end work with a Watts link? Depending on the size of the axle tubing.
10.What am I missing?
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If you can find a good S60 at the right width that would definitely be the way to go, But the problem with piecing one together is the way it mounts. Do yourself a favor call Midwest Chassis and let them help you with the different options. In the end you will be happy you did. We have the S60 and the reason you cant use a aluminum cover with supports is it won't clear the panhard bar. Strange makes a pretty sick cover that will work though.
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This is what it looks like.
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I can't afford a brand new one, and the only used ones I've found still go for $2k+. I'm not too worried about the installation, either.
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He's no longer running factory exhaust and has also removed the heat shield protecting the fuel tank from the factory exhaust.
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The breather is the tank vent. The fuel tank is in the ttop well. It extends down below the bottom of the tank so just in case the roll over valve malfunctions. Rear end cover fits wth no issues.
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Used some of the extra room for the trans cooler. Temp on trans using the brake on a cool day stays 105 to 110. On a hot day 140 to 150. Very happy how good it works. So is my th400. And thats 8 to ten passes using the brake every pass. Its the larger B&M with the larger fan.
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My Strange S60 fit a perdy aluminum cover just fine with aftermarket panhard bar. (once I trimmed the stock panhard bar brace a little). I have to admit the Moser cover looks trick from the back view of the car compared to a stamped steel housing,.due to the size of the S60 it's fairly noticeable from behind.
My LT1 steel fuel tank might clear better than 99+ plastic tank.. not sure. I did bend the tank a little bit also in the top corner to give it more clearance.
Excuse the weak sway bar.. i only fitted it for the time being to clear the crude 4" under axle exhaust. I will be redoing the exhaust soon and also fitting a proper thick sway bar.
To answer the OP's question, I purchased this as bare f-body housing. Built it myself with 3.73's and Strange spool. I wouldn't bother building it myself if I was in USA.. I'd just buy it complete. I only bought it in pieces because the shipping cost. Plus I ordered it with the common Ford torino style ends and axles so when I have to buy new axles I can purchase them as a typical ford 9" axle if using other manufacturers who are less familiar with the f-body style setup.
My LT1 steel fuel tank might clear better than 99+ plastic tank.. not sure. I did bend the tank a little bit also in the top corner to give it more clearance.
Excuse the weak sway bar.. i only fitted it for the time being to clear the crude 4" under axle exhaust. I will be redoing the exhaust soon and also fitting a proper thick sway bar.
To answer the OP's question, I purchased this as bare f-body housing. Built it myself with 3.73's and Strange spool. I wouldn't bother building it myself if I was in USA.. I'd just buy it complete. I only bought it in pieces because the shipping cost. Plus I ordered it with the common Ford torino style ends and axles so when I have to buy new axles I can purchase them as a typical ford 9" axle if using other manufacturers who are less familiar with the f-body style setup.
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The bearings in my stock rear end are all shot, and I'm ready to upgrade the rear end with one that won't break at the drag strip, but I don't have $3500. I was considering trying to build a Dana 60, but after looking at Strange's S60, I don't want to try that anymore. It would just be too much of a headache.
So I was looking at their website some more and found this:
https://www.strangeengineering.net/p...d-mounts.html/
My idea is that I could buy this casing and a used Dana 60 and combine the two. In the future, when I have more money, I could buy a True-Trac and a different ring and pinion if I wanted to. For now, I would have a Dana 60 in the car for under $1700 after buying the axles.
Now I have some questions.
1. I have a 2000 M6 with ABS/TCS. That is a 4-channel system, right? This housing says it's drilled for a 3-channel sensor. Yes
2. If I find a used Dana 60, can I use all of the internal components other than the axles and the side bearing races? Not sure but I'd call Strange. They have a very knowledgeable tech team. I've deal with them a few times.
3. Do the rear ends/housings from Strange come with brake lines already installed on them? No
4. Is there any reason to get a custom width for a DD? Up to you and how you prefer wheel back spacing. For me, I like the stock width. Some prefer a shorter width look.
5. The page says, "Aluminum covers will not fit due to limited vehicle clearances." Does that mean that I can only go with a plain-Jane diff cover? I think others already answered this.
6. The page also says, "98-02 require housing end spacers." Are those something I can take off of my stock rear end with the backing plates? I looked at the two 98-02 spacer links. Which style of bearing would I have? Idk. Call Strange.
7. Is it worth it to have them powder coat the rear end or should I just buy some POR-15 or something like that to prevent corrosion? I had them powder coat mine and it seems to hold up well. That's more of a budget question.
8. Is there a way to use my stock driveshaft with a Dana 60 pinion? I'm assuming that as long as the number of splines are the same, I'm okay. No.
9. Will this rear end work with a Watts link? Not sure, but I don't think there's one available for the S60 but I'd call vendors like BMR and UMI. The S60 in f bodies are more of a straight line setup vs a handling setup.
10.What am I missing?
So I was looking at their website some more and found this:
https://www.strangeengineering.net/p...d-mounts.html/
My idea is that I could buy this casing and a used Dana 60 and combine the two. In the future, when I have more money, I could buy a True-Trac and a different ring and pinion if I wanted to. For now, I would have a Dana 60 in the car for under $1700 after buying the axles.
Now I have some questions.
1. I have a 2000 M6 with ABS/TCS. That is a 4-channel system, right? This housing says it's drilled for a 3-channel sensor. Yes
2. If I find a used Dana 60, can I use all of the internal components other than the axles and the side bearing races? Not sure but I'd call Strange. They have a very knowledgeable tech team. I've deal with them a few times.
3. Do the rear ends/housings from Strange come with brake lines already installed on them? No
4. Is there any reason to get a custom width for a DD? Up to you and how you prefer wheel back spacing. For me, I like the stock width. Some prefer a shorter width look.
5. The page says, "Aluminum covers will not fit due to limited vehicle clearances." Does that mean that I can only go with a plain-Jane diff cover? I think others already answered this.
6. The page also says, "98-02 require housing end spacers." Are those something I can take off of my stock rear end with the backing plates? I looked at the two 98-02 spacer links. Which style of bearing would I have? Idk. Call Strange.
7. Is it worth it to have them powder coat the rear end or should I just buy some POR-15 or something like that to prevent corrosion? I had them powder coat mine and it seems to hold up well. That's more of a budget question.
8. Is there a way to use my stock driveshaft with a Dana 60 pinion? I'm assuming that as long as the number of splines are the same, I'm okay. No.
9. Will this rear end work with a Watts link? Not sure, but I don't think there's one available for the S60 but I'd call vendors like BMR and UMI. The S60 in f bodies are more of a straight line setup vs a handling setup.
10.What am I missing?