2001 z28 differential. Are there upgrades or full swap?
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2001 z28 differential. Are there upgrades or full swap?
So I have an 01 z28 t56. I’m planing on upping the horsepower significantly. I have been warned and heard some horror stories about the rear ends in these cars. I know at 7.5 they are not that big or beefy. Is there a better and stronger differential I can install to keep it from blowing up or will I have to swap the whole rear end? It’s a daily driver and I like the factory gearing. I estimate to be in the low 400’s at least to the wheels after all the upgrades I have planned.
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I'm surprised no one has jumped all over this question, don't worry though, you'll shortly be reading plenty. You'll have to replace the axle, which is not that big of a pain, it can be pricey though. You say this is a daily driver, unconventional opinion - unless you're putting sticky tires on and tracking the car, I wouldn't worry about it right way. That said 12 bolts are stronger, but will develop a whine. Then there are a variety of 9" options, and the dana 60. The last one is very strong, but heavy, and probably overkill for a daily.
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I'm surprised no one has jumped all over this question, don't worry though, you'll shortly be reading plenty. You'll have to replace the axle, which is not that big of a pain, it can be pricey though. You say this is a daily driver, unconventional opinion - unless you're putting sticky tires on and tracking the car, I wouldn't worry about it right way. That said 12 bolts are stronger, but will develop a whine. Then there are a variety of 9" options, and the dana 60. The last one is very strong, but heavy, and probably overkill for a daily.
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If your not dumping the clutch all the time or running sticky tires they generally will last a good while even with 400WHP. BUT, if you throw some slicks on or sticky drag radials and head to the track and dumping the clutch at 4000+ rpm it might not even make it the first 60ft lol...
But for a street car that is just rolling into the throttle with street tires I would just keep note in my mind that until I can afford a 9", I probably dont need to be dropping the clutch at red lights and power shifting to 2nd every time I take off.... lol
But for a street car that is just rolling into the throttle with street tires I would just keep note in my mind that until I can afford a 9", I probably dont need to be dropping the clutch at red lights and power shifting to 2nd every time I take off.... lol
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A drawback for the 9” and “12 bolt” rear ends is the likelihood of having to delete ABS and traction control if your cars have it. Even the ones who pay extra to keep ABS & TCS often times still have to delete them. After the delete the only way to get the ABS/TCS dash warning light off is to break the bulb.
So that’s something to consider. I was looking at aftermarket rears for a little while and it would’ve been pretty close to $5k once it was installed.
So that’s something to consider. I was looking at aftermarket rears for a little while and it would’ve been pretty close to $5k once it was installed.
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If your not dumping the clutch all the time or running sticky tires they generally will last a good while even with 400WHP. BUT, if you throw some slicks on or sticky drag radials and head to the track and dumping the clutch at 4000+ rpm it might not even make it the first 60ft lol...
But for a street car that is just rolling into the throttle with street tires I would just keep note in my mind that until I can afford a 9", I probably dont need to be dropping the clutch at red lights and power shifting to 2nd every time I take off.... lol
But for a street car that is just rolling into the throttle with street tires I would just keep note in my mind that until I can afford a 9", I probably dont need to be dropping the clutch at red lights and power shifting to 2nd every time I take off.... lol
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The 7.5" may as well be made out of glass in a 6-speed car. I blew mine up FOURTEEN times before I finally bit the bullet and bought a Strange S60. Do not upgrade it, it's a complete waste of money. It will break with hard driving on street tires, on the street. It's not just track excursions that kill them. For those that wonder why I rebuilt it so many times, I did all my own labor and most of the failures were ring and pinions, which my local Parts Plus kept replacing under warranty. 2 failures were posi units, one of which split clean in half. So total cost wasn't really terrible for me. I would never, ever do it again though.
My recommendation? Buy an S60 with 4 channel ABS and a Detroit Truetrac. Put 4.10 gears in it. I know you like your gearing, but our T56 transmissions have a .74 fifth and a .50 sixth gear, which means even with 4.10s you're only going to be turning 1800 RPM or so at 75MPH. Those gears absolutely wake up T56 cars. Once you upgrade, you literally would have to build an engine with 1500 HP to come close to breaking one of these axles. Yeah, it's a big expense, but if you're planning on keeping this car and will up the power eventually, do yourself a favor and beef the drivetrain first.
My recommendation? Buy an S60 with 4 channel ABS and a Detroit Truetrac. Put 4.10 gears in it. I know you like your gearing, but our T56 transmissions have a .74 fifth and a .50 sixth gear, which means even with 4.10s you're only going to be turning 1800 RPM or so at 75MPH. Those gears absolutely wake up T56 cars. Once you upgrade, you literally would have to build an engine with 1500 HP to come close to breaking one of these axles. Yeah, it's a big expense, but if you're planning on keeping this car and will up the power eventually, do yourself a favor and beef the drivetrain first.