View Poll Results: Strange or Moser 12 bolt?
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Strange or Moser 12 bolt???
03-31-2006, 05:03 PM
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Strange or Moser 12 bolt??? I have been pricing then and got some really good prices, but now I need to try to make a descision on which one to go with.
Where I was quoted the price for the Moser stated that it comes disassembled, but that is all I got from them. they also said the Strange came assembled but you have to pull it apart again to put your brake stuff on. But the guy that quoted me the price on the Strange said I wouldn't have to do anythign sor the caliper mounting brackets.
I have read a lot of bad stuff about the moser rears and how Moser has some pretty bad QC and tolerances on these things. But on the other hand I have also heard that the Moser was stronger. Most guys say that the Moser will Whine more then the Strange, but if it comes disasembled then wouldn't that be the fault of the one who set it up? With the Strange unit there is no need for modifications to the T/A bolts or a different D-shaft. The Strange has a 3" OD axle tube, yet the Moser has a 3.5", does that add weight to the Moser?
What would you get if you had the choice of the 2 for almost the same price?
Where I was quoted the price for the Moser stated that it comes disassembled, but that is all I got from them. they also said the Strange came assembled but you have to pull it apart again to put your brake stuff on. But the guy that quoted me the price on the Strange said I wouldn't have to do anythign sor the caliper mounting brackets.
I have read a lot of bad stuff about the moser rears and how Moser has some pretty bad QC and tolerances on these things. But on the other hand I have also heard that the Moser was stronger. Most guys say that the Moser will Whine more then the Strange, but if it comes disasembled then wouldn't that be the fault of the one who set it up? With the Strange unit there is no need for modifications to the T/A bolts or a different D-shaft. The Strange has a 3" OD axle tube, yet the Moser has a 3.5", does that add weight to the Moser?
What would you get if you had the choice of the 2 for almost the same price?
04-01-2006, 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 1SlowFormula
I have been pricing then and got some really good prices, but now I need to try to make a descision on which one to go with.
Where I was quoted the price for the Moser stated that it comes disassembled, but that is all I got from them. they also said the Strange came assembled but you have to pull it apart again to put your brake stuff on. But the guy that quoted me the price on the Strange said I wouldn't have to do anythign sor the caliper mounting brackets.
I have read a lot of bad stuff about the moser rears and how Moser has some pretty bad QC and tolerances on these things. But on the other hand I have also heard that the Moser was stronger. Most guys say that the Moser will Whine more then the Strange, but if it comes disasembled then wouldn't that be the fault of the one who set it up? With the Strange unit there is no need for modifications to the T/A bolts or a different D-shaft. The Strange has a 3" OD axle tube, yet the Moser has a 3.5", does that add weight to the Moser?
What would you get if you had the choice of the 2 for almost the same price?
Where I was quoted the price for the Moser stated that it comes disassembled, but that is all I got from them. they also said the Strange came assembled but you have to pull it apart again to put your brake stuff on. But the guy that quoted me the price on the Strange said I wouldn't have to do anythign sor the caliper mounting brackets.
I have read a lot of bad stuff about the moser rears and how Moser has some pretty bad QC and tolerances on these things. But on the other hand I have also heard that the Moser was stronger. Most guys say that the Moser will Whine more then the Strange, but if it comes disasembled then wouldn't that be the fault of the one who set it up? With the Strange unit there is no need for modifications to the T/A bolts or a different D-shaft. The Strange has a 3" OD axle tube, yet the Moser has a 3.5", does that add weight to the Moser?
What would you get if you had the choice of the 2 for almost the same price?
* The Moser axle tubes are 3.00" in diameter, as are the Moser 9 inch axle tubes.
* The Moser rears can reuse the original driveshaft. You will need a hybrid U Joint, Napa pn# 240-0447 to convert from the 1310 driveshaft yoke to the Mosers beefier 1350.
* The Moser rears are ready to ship two days after the order is received. A Strange rear is at least three weeks. Bob
04-01-2006, 07:08 AM
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Listen to Bob, he knows what he is talking about. Bob form EPP says the turn around time is truly beneficial with a Mosier rear end. Although, I have gone through 2 Mosier 12 bolts, one had hard spots in the gears, the other Mosier themselves put in and forgot to tighten the Control Arms. 
Mosier and I have separated ways and I am going to try Strange S60 it should be here by the middle of April. I sucks because my car has been down for 2 weeks now. Oh, ya and I am a very impatient person anyways. 
They are both make a great rear-end. As soon as I get my Strange S60 installed I will post the differences between the two that I notice in this section. Good luck with your choice
Mosier and I have separated ways and I am going to try Strange S60 it should be here by the middle of April. I sucks because my car has been down for 2 weeks now. Oh, ya and I am a very impatient person anyways. They are both make a great rear-end. As soon as I get my Strange S60 installed I will post the differences between the two that I notice in this section. Good luck with your choice
04-01-2006, 08:43 AM
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Where I was quoted the price for the Moser stated that it comes disassembled, but that is all I got from them. they also said the Strange came assembled but you have to pull it apart again to put your brake stuff on. But the guy that quoted me the price on the Strange said I wouldn't have to do anythign sor the caliper mounting brackets.
I have read a lot of bad stuff about the moser rears and how Moser has some pretty bad QC and tolerances on these things. But on the other hand I have also heard that the Moser was stronger. Most guys say that the Moser will Whine more then the Strange, but if it comes disasembled then wouldn't that be the fault of the one who set it up?
I think you answered you own question for yourself, right??
Also, the difference in tube size will add some weight. You can knock 40-45lbs off the assembly if you go 2 to 2 1/2 inches shorter on each side when you order the assembly. This will also allow you to stuff bigger meats in your fender wells. Need to figure all that out before you order.
I would suggest you talk to Steve at SJM Manufacturing (sjmmanufacturing.com) about a strange rearend, he is very good at covering all the options and asking you the right questions.
Good luck.
I have read a lot of bad stuff about the moser rears and how Moser has some pretty bad QC and tolerances on these things. But on the other hand I have also heard that the Moser was stronger. Most guys say that the Moser will Whine more then the Strange, but if it comes disasembled then wouldn't that be the fault of the one who set it up?
I think you answered you own question for yourself, right??
Also, the difference in tube size will add some weight. You can knock 40-45lbs off the assembly if you go 2 to 2 1/2 inches shorter on each side when you order the assembly. This will also allow you to stuff bigger meats in your fender wells. Need to figure all that out before you order.
I would suggest you talk to Steve at SJM Manufacturing (sjmmanufacturing.com) about a strange rearend, he is very good at covering all the options and asking you the right questions.
Good luck.
04-01-2006, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by mvonada
I would suggest you talk to Steve at SJM Manufacturing (sjmmanufacturing.com) about a strange rearend, he is very good at covering all the options and asking you the right questions.
Good luck.
Good luck.
He's the one I'm thinking about getting the Strange from if I decide to go that direction. He is a damn good guy to talk to, but when looking around other guys really pushed the Moser and got me to the delema I am in now, plus the guy quoted me the Moser at about $25 less then what Steve quoted for the strange. The other downfall is I live in the same state as Steve and need to pay more tax on the strange from him over the Moser from another company...
So in other words I am trying to see what other guys did/think and if I should spend a little more by going with Steve and the Stange rear...
04-01-2006, 11:11 AM
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Billingsley is a great option for Strange 12-bolts. They can hook you up with brand new backing plates, parking brakes, reluctor rings for 4-channel, already installed, so all you have to do is remove the 10-bolt and put the 12-bolt in.
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04-01-2006, 07:52 PM
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Can you bolt up a stock sway bar w/stock hardware to a moser?
Does the moser have brake line clips on the housing? No to both.
The little things go a long way IMO, a strange is basically a bolt in.
Does the moser have brake line clips on the housing? No to both.
The little things go a long way IMO, a strange is basically a bolt in.
04-01-2006, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by tboysen00
this may be stupid, but why not just order the rear end from stange or moser. that what i was going to do just order my rear from strange.
The guy that quoted me the Moser also has other things to do on my car that is already scheduled, and he was going to get me the Moser at a very little over his cost, a decent amount less then list price. That's why people sometimes don't go directly with the manufacturer...
04-02-2006, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 1SlowFormula
Funny you say that...
He's the one I'm thinking about getting the Strange from if I decide to go that direction. He is a damn good guy to talk to, but when looking around other guys really pushed the Moser and got me to the delema I am in now, plus the guy quoted me the Moser at about $25 less then what Steve quoted for the strange. The other downfall is I live in the same state as Steve and need to pay more tax on the strange from him over the Moser from another company...
So in other words I am trying to see what other guys did/think and if I should spend a little more by going with Steve and the Stange rear...
He's the one I'm thinking about getting the Strange from if I decide to go that direction. He is a damn good guy to talk to, but when looking around other guys really pushed the Moser and got me to the delema I am in now, plus the guy quoted me the Moser at about $25 less then what Steve quoted for the strange. The other downfall is I live in the same state as Steve and need to pay more tax on the strange from him over the Moser from another company...
So in other words I am trying to see what other guys did/think and if I should spend a little more by going with Steve and the Stange rear...
04-02-2006, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by chpmnsws6
Strage S60
With either rear end you will like them, i would say shoot for something pre-assembled and go through a shop that can do the backing plates for you. If you dont want to worry about gear whine, go spool since the posi units seem to make the most noise, but w/ a spool you loose drivability.
I prefer strange due to the through torquearm bolt holes and they seem more useful to me, a bit stronger and safer. Whichever you can find for the cheapest, including assembly and installation. I say go for it, itll be your best bet.
04-03-2006, 03:57 PM
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I personally just went with a Moser, not incredibly happy with the seller, I was told it comes ready to bolt in just add oil and swap brakes. I wasnt expecting to install axles and seals and have to paint it.
04-03-2006, 04:16 PM
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You only have to paint the axle tubes on the Strange 12-bolt. The housing has a dark gray crinkle finish. My Strange came with everything installed, backing plates, parking brakes, reluctor rings, seals, bearings. Plug and play.
04-09-2006, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Predator
Billingsley is a great option for Strange 12-bolts. They can hook you up with brand new backing plates, parking brakes, reluctor rings for 4-channel, already installed, so all you have to do is remove the 10-bolt and put the 12-bolt in.
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I have a Strange center section on my 9" and it has caused me nothing but heartache. I would not purchase another Strange product if they gave it to me for 1/2 price. In owning Camaros since 1968 the worst customer service I have ever experienced came from Strange. They are bastards to deal with. The only way I could get them to stand behind their warranty was to threaten to go to the Consumer Products Safety Comission. Go Moser it is built beefier anyway.