97LT1

iTrader: (3)

Yeah but stock ls platform was underated. If these #'s are indeed true hp #'s for the v6, you still have drive line loss. Even at the same weight the new platform cant keep up. I say it will be a damn good v6. I bet you see some turbo setup v6 models kicking ***.

I encourage engine technology, and if you ls guys are that worried, then it is time to break out the wrenches. I had to do that with my LT setup.

I think the big question here is if the rated HP #'s coincide with actual HP #'s.

ThisBlood147

It's going to be a 14 second car. The only LS1 owners that should be in fear are the ones who can't drive worth a damn.

00Antivenom

You know...or the new Skyline. Someone here on campus drives one. 600hp

ThisBlood147

You don't even have to worry about those. Just arrange a best 5 outta 8 drag competition with him and wait for the tranny to frag.

01z

iTrader: (3)

maybe the v6 5th gen is underrated just like the ls1

WECIV

Once we get out of the realm of stock...the person with deeper pockets will win though.

W

2010cam

CAI and a tune should be pretty good

xhk651

ahhhhhh.. 80k car and he has a **** ton more in it... with a tranny that is about to cost him 20k.. hahahaha.. H/C spray his *** and walk away..

haha.. nice!

true.. but they will be VERY expensive to make go fast... and it will take a lot more for them to get the same power as an ls1.. but like said, whoever has more dough.. wins..

00Antivenom

lol, he doesn't have **** done to that car. It's stock at 600hp. A stock v6 for ***** sake. Anyways, I think I'll be able to take him after Christmas. My heads cam package will be coming next Christmas

speedshifterNC

iTrader: (1)

lets not forget the twin turbos and intercooler and I doubt 600 horseys

00Antivenom

Ha ha, I knew it had twins on it. Back about a year ago it was quoted at 600. I'm reading the official specs now and it's only 480hp.

Blackened2k

iTrader: (4)

of course you have to worry about this new v6!!!!



....unless you get traction.

00Antivenom

A saw your sig and at first it looked like your car was parked on a **** carpet.

ThisBlood147

Yea. You'll be needing forced induction or a pretty big nitrous build to make it serious fast. I'm sure it'll move out quite nicely for its weight/power level, but don't expect to turn it into a 12 second car with a handful of bolt-ons.

bww3588

iTrader: (49)

i wish....
the curb weight on a 5th gen is ~3800 lbs. race weight will be ~4000+lbs.
race weight on a 4th gen is around 3800lbs +/-
i wish....
the 4th gen LS1 F-body is rated around 5.2-5.4 0-60
it'll be close, but not a blowout.

my guess a good comparsion right now would be a stock 3v mustang vs a bolt on LS1.

zrater

i got a z28stripper with 2.73s bring it on. 310/329 dyno stock and now tuned
with no add on but a lid.. 3250 with me in it.. huh good luc

JD_AMG

Fully loaded 4th gen maybe. The lightest 5th gen is going to be 3800lbs, while the lightest LS1 4th gen was in the high 3300lbs.

bww3588

iTrader: (49)

most 4th gens are fully loaded....

and the lightest 5th gen (LT manual) is 3741 curb weight. thats 4000+ race weight.

xhk651

its no where near 600 stock..



id say you could put a cam in it with full bolt ons and take a slight bit of weight out and be in the mid 12s... but who knows..

i was talking about race weight.. i was talking empty..

ummmm, i dont think those are the correct rated 0-60 times for our cars... maybe depending on the year.. but an 02 ws6 was rated lower than that i believe, i saw a 4.9 somewhere..
besides, doesnt matter what they are rated at, im sure it will outperform the 370z..

a stock 3v mustang and a bolt on ls1... thats not much of a comparison.. the stang would get walked on pretty hard..

ThisBlood147

No offense, but now you're being HELLA optimistic. There's no way it's happening unless you pull ALOT of weight out of the car, and I don't see you being able to pull several hundred lbs out without gutting the car almost completely. This isn't an LSX motor we're talking about here, remember. Don't let the 300hp figure confuse you.......this is STILL an NA V6 in a 3700+lb car.

Initial fuel/air bolt-ons (intake/tune) will show the biggest NA gains possible right off the bat. After that, getting gains on motor alone with get harder. Cams probably won't net you enough to talk about unless you're doing a full race high rpm build (and it won't be cheap).....and even then, you're still lacking the torque to get the thing up and moving. Gears will probably help out the best next to the intake/tune, along with some grippy tires. But all in all, I still don't see these things being impressive without nitrous or forced induction. Sorry, JMO.

I'm not knocking the base 5th gen....it's gonna be a solid car for the money. But any bolt-on sixxer 5th gen with delusions of grandeur are gonna find themselves in over their head if they go around looking to mess with every V8 ponycar they come across on the road.