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Old 09-28-2009, 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by kapsz28
Most likely the price is going to start under $40k. 1. Labor costs are down for GM. 2. It doesn't make sense to price it in Vette territory.
This car will compare and compete very closely with the GT500, so the price should be very close. By the time it comes out, I am guessing an MSRP of $50k. It is not like they are going to sell a stripped down version of this car, you will have to buy it fully loaded. If Ford can sell the GT500 in vette territory, then I think GM can certainly sell an LSA powered Z28 in the same range.
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CTS-V is in Vette pricing, and with the same powertrain, the Z28 will be also.

I read somewhere that they are producing another limited run of ZL1s and are taking orders...while I love the nameplate, it's only been used twice before in Camaros history and I think that GM should keep its use extremely limited...IMO
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Originally Posted by NW-99SS
CTS-V is in Vette pricing, and with the same powertrain, the Z28 will be also.

I read somewhere that they are producing another limited run of ZL1s and are taking orders...while I love the nameplate, it's only been used twice before in Camaros history and I think that GM should keep its use extremely limited...IMO
Except it is a 4dr luxury car from Cadillac. Not exactly the same market.

"With GM now out of bankruptcy, the Z28 program has been restarted. Why? Insiders say the Z28 business case now makes sense because the new UAW contracts have reduced the labor costs on the car to the point where GM feels it can price it competitively -- and far enough away from Corvette."
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Originally Posted by JeaneZ28
Dont forget about Z26 and Z66.

I would say the SS is more diluted and almost every chevrolet vehicle has an SS model. I can only think on 7 cars with Z model.

Chevrolet Cobalt
Chevrolet HHR
Chevrolet Camaro
Chevrolet Impala
Chevrolet TrailBlazer
Chevrolet Caprice
Chevrolet Lumina
Chevrolet Astra South America market
Chevrolet Meriva South America market - Brazil
Chevrolet Malibu/Malibu Maxx
Chevrolet Chevelle
Chevrolet Camaro
Chevrolet El Camino
Chevrolet Nova
Chevrolet Monte Carlo
Chevrolet 454 SS
Chevrolet S10
Chevrolet SSR
Chevrolet Silverado SS
Chevrolet Silverado Intimidator SS
I hope that everyone understands that the Z is an option code and the fact of the matter is that all the SS are a Z code too. Like the Z16, Z12, Z15 all SS models of Chevelle Camaro and Monte Carlo. Z code are just GM parlance for special options or series on a certain model, the Z28 was not advertized and just stood for Special Performance Group on the original Z/28 in 1967. In the first years of the Camaro the Z/28 and the SS were on equal footing in GMs eyes (marketing) the SS Camaro could be ordered with all the same equipment as a Z/28 with the exception of the 302, so in reality the SS350 was the better street performance car off the dealership lot, the Z/28 needed to be gone through before its real performance came out (the headers and crossrams were not standard in the trunk of every Z/28 either). As orders were taken the SS was more geared toward street heavy and drag racer where the Z/28 shined for customers that wanted to cut corners.

BTW there is no such thing as an SS427 Camaro from GM, all of the 427 Camaros were COPOs or COPOs converted at Yenkos, Nickeys, Danas....et al, they carried all the same equipment as an SS except the badging (in some cases they are closer to Z/28 with 427 BB).

There is no way in hell the 2012 Camaro Z28 will be under 40k.....it will be in the same price range as the GT500. If GM pulls the LSA and just does a tuned suspension and retuned LS3 then we may see a Z28 right under 40k but the LSA will push the price right into the mid 40's.
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you forgot the geo metro ss
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regardless of what was said on "motor trend" there is no OFFICIAL word on the z28....yea btw i work in marketing for GM...
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Originally Posted by 3.8redbird
WHat I dont understand is the labeling

SS has always been the heavy hitter big horsepower car
Z28 has been the no but performance (high revving)

IMO the labeling needs to be switched
but good ot know a big boy is coming out
...the Z28 used to be the top dog and the SS was the lesser of the 2.
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ohh god
when i heard the Camaro was coming back i was excited, but i heard there was no Z28 model and i was sad.
hearing about an ultra high performance Z28 package with over 500hp and torque.
im buying one after college
Old 09-29-2009, 04:01 PM
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OMG, I want one!


That is awesome.

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Old 09-30-2009, 10:14 AM
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Now if only they could re-badge it and throw a couple screamin' chickens on there I'd have my next ride picked out, put it that way. Chevrolet "Bandit"
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is it me or the new z28 isn't getting the same exact hood that was in the 2nd transformers movie? that hood makes the z28!
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Originally Posted by airforcemanss
is it me or the new z28 isn't getting the same exact hood that was in the 2nd transformers movie? that hood makes the z28!
At this point everything is speculation but im just glad to know that GM didnt just throw the towel in to Ford and say you win.
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There was some rumblings of the Z28 only coming with a manual trans.
Anyone hear that? I hope that's not the case. I'd like a Z28 with an auto trans.
Old 10-04-2009, 09:57 AM
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Should be cool. I wonder if the parts will be available separately. The wheels may be hot & I'm liking that ram air hood more than the Bumblebee ram air.
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Another recycled plastics !!!!

looks good if they are going to bring it this or next year...cuz waiting too much makes it OLD !!!
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Originally Posted by KriegerEhre
when first gens came out SS's where just a sports package the Z28 was the original power car it makes perfect since that they would originate back to their original platform terms. . . . .SS was just deliuted.
i agree. had big rumble on ls1.com because someone was disrespecting the z
had to break it down to them with specs and numbers
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Originally Posted by 3.8redbird
WHat I dont understand is the labeling

SS has always been the heavy hitter big horsepower car
Z28 has been the no but performance (high revving)

IMO the labeling needs to be switched
but good ot know a big boy is coming out
isnt that the way it was originally, the rs was the base model then the ss was a step up,and the z was the top dog? im talking about in the late 60's when the car first came out.
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Originally Posted by 406 Q-ship
I hope that everyone understands that the Z is an option code and the fact of the matter is that all the SS are a Z code too. Like the Z16, Z12, Z15 all SS models of Chevelle Camaro and Monte Carlo. Z code are just GM parlance for special options or series on a certain model, the Z28 was not advertized and just stood for Special Performance Group on the original Z/28 in 1967. In the first years of the Camaro the Z/28 and the SS were on equal footing in GMs eyes (marketing) the SS Camaro could be ordered with all the same equipment as a Z/28 with the exception of the 302, so in reality the SS350 was the better street performance car off the dealership lot, the Z/28 needed to be gone through before its real performance came out (the headers and crossrams were not standard in the trunk of every Z/28 either). As orders were taken the SS was more geared toward street heavy and drag racer where the Z/28 shined for customers that wanted to cut corners.

BTW there is no such thing as an SS427 Camaro from GM, all of the 427 Camaros were COPOs or COPOs converted at Yenkos, Nickeys, Danas....et al, they carried all the same equipment as an SS except the badging (in some cases they are closer to Z/28 with 427 BB).

There is no way in hell the 2012 Camaro Z28 will be under 40k.....it will be in the same price range as the GT500. If GM pulls the LSA and just does a tuned suspension and retuned LS3 then we may see a Z28 right under 40k but the LSA will push the price right into the mid 40's.
nevermind
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The SS was the big dog regular production Camaro in 1967-69 when ordered with the solid lifter 396/375 HP combination. The Z-28 was built to get the Camaro into Trans Am racing (minimum 500 cars had to be built). It was also a good dragstrip performer, but not even close to the 375 HP cars.

Who cares what GM calls the new car. Let's just hope that they build it!
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Originally Posted by Kev_n
isnt that the way it was originally, the rs was the base model then the ss was a step up,and the z was the top dog? im talking about in the late 60's when the car first came out.
rs was an appearance package, and it could be stacked on to an ss hence the desirable rs/ss


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