2011 stangs on sale today
#22
v6 mustangs have and always be the top selling option. people arent necessarily buying them to blow everything away. they buy them because they owned one before or because they like the way it looks. a solid axle will not hurt sales. it hasnt before and it wont now.
expect sales to be huge and a long waiting list well into this summer or later.
expect sales to be huge and a long waiting list well into this summer or later.
#23
I went to the local Ford dealer here in AZ and they couldnt tell me a thing about the GT, not a price, when it was hitting the lot NOTHING. I like both Fords and Chevy and wanted to weigh my options before buying a Camaro but the ignorance pushed me right back to the Chevy dealer.
#24
#25
A V6 buyer doesn't buy based on performance as much as looks and the mustang still has the same stale look. I expect mustang numbers to increase with the updated power but the average V6 buyer is going to think the Camaro is faster because it has 312 hp compared to 305. Add in the convertible and Z28 and I think the mustang will have a fight to out sell the Camaro again. I could be wrong but GM proved that performance doesn't equal sales. You have to have the intangibles like look, popularity, and "it" factor.
mustangs have always looked plain imo. that never hurt sales. your average mustang buyer isnt interested in being the fastest either based on past sales. camaros at least in base v8 form have been faster for yrs and were still behind in sales.
expect dealers to not be able to keep these things in stock for months.
#26
I went to the local Ford dealer here in AZ and they couldnt tell me a thing about the GT, not a price, when it was hitting the lot NOTHING. I like both Fords and Chevy and wanted to weigh my options before buying a Camaro but the ignorance pushed me right back to the Chevy dealer.
dealers suck. nothing new. do your own research and decide what you want.
#27
mustangs have always looked plain imo. that never hurt sales. your average mustang buyer isnt interested in being the fastest either based on past sales. camaros at least in base v8 form have been faster for yrs and were still behind in sales.
expect dealers to not be able to keep these things in stock for months.
expect dealers to not be able to keep these things in stock for months.
Maybe I am wrong, but IMO the Camaro is just so much fresher right now, that a lot less people want another mustang, regardless of the worthwhile mechanical updates.
#28
I disagree, the Mustang has always been religiously updated every few years which kept average buyers interested, we know it was never about performance. The 93 F-body was the death of the Camaro, it never was a well received design, and the update in 98 wasn't enough to bring in buyers. The 2010/2011 mustang is nothing new, and although I like the design, it is not different enough for most people to say, oh look at that new mustang - and go out and buy it, as in years past. They are in a tough spot design wise because 05 was such a hit, they don't want to change it radically, but IMO this refresh was so subtle, nobody even noticed.
Maybe I am wrong, but IMO the Camaro is just so much fresher right now, that a lot less people want another mustang, regardless of the worthwhile mechanical updates.
Maybe I am wrong, but IMO the Camaro is just so much fresher right now, that a lot less people want another mustang, regardless of the worthwhile mechanical updates.
#29
I disagree, the Mustang has always been religiously updated every few years which kept average buyers interested, we know it was never about performance. The 93 F-body was the death of the Camaro, it never was a well received design, and the update in 98 wasn't enough to bring in buyers. The 2010/2011 mustang is nothing new, and although I like the design, it is not different enough for most people to say, oh look at that new mustang - and go out and buy it, as in years past. They are in a tough spot design wise because 05 was such a hit, they don't want to change it radically, but IMO this refresh was so subtle, nobody even noticed.
Maybe I am wrong, but IMO the Camaro is just so much fresher right now, that a lot less people want another mustang, regardless of the worthwhile mechanical updates.
Maybe I am wrong, but IMO the Camaro is just so much fresher right now, that a lot less people want another mustang, regardless of the worthwhile mechanical updates.
watch. this car is going to be neck and neck sales wise with camaros and possibly outsell them. this car is getting alot of positive publicity and is ranked higher in some categories over a camaro. to say this car isnt going to take some camaro sales isnt accurate.
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#34
everyone on both side is going to have to DRIVE the freakin cars. you being ready for guys like me had better include being one hell of a driver,(u have 800rwhp? the supra had 1200) or your mods are all trailer queen mods. good for the internet, bad for race day. I'll be running LOW 12's right off the bat. i dont go to the track without a setup for the track. my ***** gonna hook and hook hard. just like 2011gt guys who think they can mod for a number and get their **** killed by a 2010SS driver with a car setup to RUN.
to quote confusius: "Strength without wisdom is a broken back." this applies to all cars at the track.
not pick on u. just saying. trailer queens are out there on both sides.
Last edited by assasinator; 05-24-2010 at 06:23 PM.
#38
...and to the person who said Mustangs are plain looking, I've always thought the same about 4th gen Camaros...same long curve all the way down the side of the body, and IMO convertibles look like a boat with their top down. I do, however, like Trans Ams. That's probably due to their little more "radical" styling.
#39
Well said, you are my favorite mustang owner on this site
everyone on both side is going to have to DRIVE the freakin cars. you being ready for guys like me had better include being one hell of a driver,(u have 800rwhp? the supra had 1200) or your mods are all trailer queen mods. good for the internet, bad for race day. I'll be running LOW 12's right off the bat. i dont go to the track without a setup for the track. my ***** gonna hook and hook hard. just like 2011gt guys who think they can mod for a number and get their **** killed by a 2010SS driver with a car setup to RUN.
to quote confusius: "Strength without wisdom is a broken back." this applies to all cars at the track.
not pick on u. just saying. trailer queens are out there on both sides.
to quote confusius: "Strength without wisdom is a broken back." this applies to all cars at the track.
not pick on u. just saying. trailer queens are out there on both sides.
#40
I love both the new Camaro and the new Mustang but in the race among the V6s the Mustang is SUBSTANTIALLY faster than the Camaro in a straight line...due mostly to lighter weight of course but still, the V6 Mustang really moves.