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Old 06-04-2010, 10:25 PM
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Old 06-05-2010, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by FOG52
This is from a Superchevy January it looks to me like the Mustang responded better to mods than the Camaro did.


http://www.superchevy.com/technical/...ads/index.html


Carmaro BASELINE, BONE STOCK 2.05 13.25 @ 106.42 [Evolution 2011 Stang ran 12.61 @ 108 mph with a 1.96 60ft on the factory street tires?]

Camaro BONE STOCK W/TUNE 1.99 12.94 @ 108.39 [Evolution Performance Mustang Bone stock with DRs 12.04 @ 117mph - 1.70 60ft on DOT legal tires]


Camaro with CAM, HEADERS/EXHAUST, TUNE 1.93 12.27 @ 114.54
Camaro CAM, HEADERS/EXHAUST HEADS,SLP Blackwing CAI, TUNE, DRs
1.86 11.81 @ 119.27 [Evolution Performance,Mustang 11.65@119MPH Drop filter, Tune, OR X pipe, cat back, MT ET Streets bogarts]

Wait, they are claiming a 9 MPH trap speed IMPROVEMENT from switching from street tires to dr's? That is BS.
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Originally Posted by rayhawk
Wait, they are claiming a 9 MPH trap speed IMPROVEMENT from switching from street tires to dr's? That is BS.




From my understanding they hit the rev limiter and lifted in 4th gear. That's why the mph was 108. The 117 was with a tune so they didn't hit the rev limiter.

FWIW, They just picked up 32rwhp from a set of longtubes and x-pipe. Stock mufflers.


http://www.modularfords.com/forums/s...-Headers-ALONE!

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Originally Posted by FOG52
This is from a Superchevy January it looks to me like the Mustang responded better to mods than the Camaro did.


http://www.superchevy.com/technical/...ads/index.html


Carmaro BASELINE, BONE STOCK 2.05 13.25 @ 106.42 [Evolution 2011 Stang ran 12.61 @ 108 mph with a 1.96 60ft on the factory street tires?]

Camaro BONE STOCK W/TUNE 1.99 12.94 @ 108.39 [Evolution Performance Mustang Bone stock with DRs 12.04 @ 117mph - 1.70 60ft on DOT legal tires]


Camaro with CAM, HEADERS/EXHAUST, TUNE 1.93 12.27 @ 114.54
Camaro CAM, HEADERS/EXHAUST HEADS,SLP Blackwing CAI, TUNE, DRs
1.86 11.81 @ 119.27 [Evolution Performance,Mustang 11.65@119MPH Drop filter, Tune, OR X pipe, cat back, MT ET Streets bogarts]
Well that about settles it. I just called my local ford dealer and I'm going in to trade my SS in on a '11 GT. I just don't know what's wrong with my car though, it ran better times than in Super Chevy. Oh well it's the ford dealer's problem now. Suckers
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Well that about settles it. I just called my local ford dealer and I'm going in to trade my SS in on a '11 GT. I just don't know what's wrong with my car though, it ran better times than in Super Chevy. Oh well it's the ford dealer's problem now. Suckers
Finally you have come to your senses.


Did you also run a faster time than Evolution did bone stock?

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Originally Posted by FOG52
This is from a Superchevy January it looks to me like the Mustang responded better to mods than the Camaro did.


http://www.superchevy.com/technical/...ads/index.html


Carmaro BASELINE, BONE STOCK 2.05 13.25 @ 106.42 [Evolution 2011 Stang ran 12.61 @ 108 mph with a 1.96 60ft on the factory street tires?]

Camaro BONE STOCK W/TUNE 1.99 12.94 @ 108.39 [Evolution Performance Mustang Bone stock with DRs 12.04 @ 117mph - 1.70 60ft on DOT legal tires]


Camaro with CAM, HEADERS/EXHAUST, TUNE 1.93 12.27 @ 114.54
Camaro CAM, HEADERS/EXHAUST HEADS,SLP Blackwing CAI, TUNE, DRs
1.86 11.81 @ 119.27 [Evolution Performance,Mustang 11.65@119MPH Drop filter, Tune, OR X pipe, cat back, MT ET Streets bogarts]
Can you tell me why you're comparing shitty Camaro times with the best times of the new mustang?
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Can you tell me why you're comparing shitty Camaro times with the best times of the new mustang?
Are you saying the folks at Super Chevy don't know what they are doing?
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Originally Posted by FOG52
Are you saying the folks at Super Chevy don't know what they are doing?
This is ridiculous. Do you ever read the **** you post on this site? They tested an L99 auto Camaro. Go find me an LS3 or an auto 5.0 to make a real comparison. Better yet, find me a real owner to run those times. All you talk about is the Evolution car. If it's so easy to run those times then show me a car not tested by a ford based performance shop.
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Originally Posted by FOG52
Are you saying the folks at Super Chevy don't know what they are doing?
You're a ******* idiot!!!
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Originally Posted by Dark SS
This is ridiculous. Do you ever read the **** you post on this site? They tested an L99 auto Camaro. Go find me an LS3 or an auto 5.0 to make a real comparison. Better yet, find me a real owner to run those times. All you talk about is the Evolution car. If it's so easy to run those times then show me a car not tested by a ford based performance shop.
So the private owner of the Camaro did his own mod work? Owner times will come. There isn't even an after market for these engines yet. Wait to you start seeing the ported heads the CAI the cams etc. Better times for private owners are ahead. Remember that Camaro had heads and Cams. It just ran 10.96 with a procharger added presumably by as shop . The Evo car went 10.97 NA with lightening and stock heads stock cam and drop in filter.
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Originally Posted by JeaneZ28
You're a ******* idiot!!!
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Great come back

No seriously do you not think the folks at Super Chevy weren't trying to make the car go fast with Cams, HEADS, exhaust, headers, DRs, CAI, and tune? Or maybe they are just ******* idiots in your humble opinion.

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Originally Posted by FOG52
So the private owner of the Camaro did his own mod work? Owner times will come. There isn't even an after market for these engines yet. Wait to you start seeing the ported heads the CAI the cams etc. Better times for private owners are ahead. Remember that Camaro had heads and Cams. It just ran 10.96 with a procharger added presumably by as shop . The Evo car went 10.97 NA with lightening and stock heads stock cam and drop in filter.
What the **** does mods have to do with comparing stock cars. Once again you're an idiot.
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Originally Posted by FOG52
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Great come
What am I crying about? and don't answer that with a question.
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Originally Posted by JeaneZ28
Once again you're an idiot.
Enough with the personal attacks. Keep it to an adult level conversation please.
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Originally Posted by JeaneZ28
What the **** does mods have to do with comparing stock cars. Once again you're an idiot.
That post was more about comparing how the cars respond to mods than just comparing stock cars.
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Originally Posted by FOG52
That post was more about comparing how the cars respond to mods than just comparing stock cars.
I can see that but my post was asking you why you're comparing random stock times for the camaro to the best stock times of the mustang.
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Originally Posted by JeaneZ28
What am I crying about? and don't answer that with a question.


Honestly I'm not sure why you are crying foul. I posted published results from a noted source for the Camaro for a Heads, Cam, Header, Exhaust, CAI, Drs LS3 2010 Camaro and you aren't satisfied. Evos car is the best I can give you at the moment because there are so few out and almost no mod market out. Heck there aren't even tuner out for them. I'm not sure how Jon Lund tuned the thing. JPC got their 2011 to 10.96 with a stock tune and a 100 shot with stock cats.
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Originally Posted by FOG52
Honestly I'm not sure why you are crying foul. I posted published results from a noted source for the Camaro for a Heads, Cam, Header, Exhaust, CAI, Drs LS3 2010 Camaro and you aren't satisfied. Evos car is the best I can give you at the moment because there are so few out and almost no mod market out. Heck there aren't even tuner out for them. I'm not sure how Jon Lund tuned the thing. JPC got their 2011 to 10.96 with a stock tune and a 100 shot with stock cats.
I'm trying to contain myself since Unit asked nicely but you're making real hard. For the last time I'm not talking about the modded times!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by 2vkiller
From my understanding they hit the rev limiter and lifted in 4th gear. That's why the mph was 108. The 117 was with a tune so they didn't hit the rev limiter.

FWIW, They just picked up 32rwhp from a set of longtubes and x-pipe. Stock mufflers.


http://www.modularfords.com/forums/s...-Headers-ALONE!
So then FOG is full of it, claiming the car picked up 9 mph from swapping out the tires, as the car was actually tuned, right? I hope that doesn't come off as a personal attack, I guess you could say it was just his version of the truth.
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Originally Posted by JeaneZ28
Can you tell me why you're comparing shitty Camaro times with the best times of the new mustang?
What stock camaro 1/4 mile time are you going by? What source?
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