2010 Mustang reveal. 400 + 500 hp
11-19-2008, 12:40 PM
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Rumor going around that the new GT weighs 150 lbs less. And the new Camaro weighs in at 3600. The new GT may weigh 3,250 since the current GT weighs 3400. Have fun with your fat ***. On top of that Ford still has GT500's and every other name of a Mustang to play the 550 hp game.
http://www.fordvehicles.com/the2010mustang/
Also note Ford is doing financial better then GM. GM's opel division begged for money in Germany and got it. Ford isn't begging it's foreign countries. Ford is the only one of the three US brands that has more Equity then Debt. So sit on that.
The New GT will come in around 25 to 26k, while the Camaro will hit around 30k. Looks like its another decade of Stang outselling the Camaro.
I also heard GM has pushed the Camaro back to 2011. Sad. So you might as well scratch that on order in your sig to 2011.
http://www.fordvehicles.com/the2010mustang/
Also note Ford is doing financial better then GM. GM's opel division begged for money in Germany and got it. Ford isn't begging it's foreign countries. Ford is the only one of the three US brands that has more Equity then Debt. So sit on that.
The New GT will come in around 25 to 26k, while the Camaro will hit around 30k. Looks like its another decade of Stang outselling the Camaro.
I also heard GM has pushed the Camaro back to 2011. Sad. So you might as well scratch that on order in your sig to 2011.
11-19-2008, 12:46 PM
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Rumor going around that the new GT weighs 150 lbs less. And the new Camaro weighs in at 3600. The new GT may weigh 3,250 since the current GT weighs 3400. Have fun with your fat ***. On top of that Ford still has GT500's and every other name of a Mustang to play the 550 hp game.
http://www.fordvehicles.com/the2010mustang/
Also note Ford is doing financial better then GM. GM's opel division begged for money in Germany and got it. Ford isn't begging it's foreign countries. Ford is the only one of the three US brands that has more Equity then Debt. So sit on that.
The New GT will come in around 25 to 26k, while the Camaro will hit around 30k. Looks like its another decade of Stang outselling the Camaro.
I also heard GM has pushed the Camaro back to 2011. Sad. So you might as well scratch that on order in your sig to 2011.
http://www.fordvehicles.com/the2010mustang/
Also note Ford is doing financial better then GM. GM's opel division begged for money in Germany and got it. Ford isn't begging it's foreign countries. Ford is the only one of the three US brands that has more Equity then Debt. So sit on that.
The New GT will come in around 25 to 26k, while the Camaro will hit around 30k. Looks like its another decade of Stang outselling the Camaro.
I also heard GM has pushed the Camaro back to 2011. Sad. So you might as well scratch that on order in your sig to 2011.
Keep dreaming about the your precious little mustang shaving weight...even my little 2yr old nephew knows that with govt. crash test ratings now its pretty impossible for any car in the 25-35K price range to drop weight and maintain that same price tag.
Good luck on getting a new GT for the price you are claiming...the price on the current GT is 26K and 29K for the "premium" GT so 26-27K out the door aint gonna happen...You'll be looking at at least 30K on the new one after taxes and that other bullshit.
For your information Ford isn't doing all that much better than GM...they also have announced that they only have money to run through 2009...besides why does that matter to you? you own slow *** 96 GT...my fkn beater would give your car a run for its money with it being a damn 4 banger
your not even on the market for a new GT anyway...please stop the nut hugging and 
11-19-2008, 12:51 PM
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[QUOTE=caseypayne69;10510298]Rumor going around that the new GT weighs 150 lbs less. And the new Camaro weighs in at 3600. The new GT may weigh 3,250 since the current GT weighs 3400. Have fun with your fat ***. On top of that Ford still has GT500's and every other name of a Mustang to play the 550 hp game.
Ok...500+ HP in some of the mustangs, yet they haven't produced a single mustang to break into the high 11's bone stock, GM's LS3 Vette has done that with much less HP . I know it's an apples to oranges comparison, but you'd think with the ability to purchase Roush Stage 3, Shelby GT500, and the KR, one of these cars , which are similar in sticker price or higher than the vette, would be able to break 11's.....oh, and get 30mpg.
Ok...500+ HP in some of the mustangs, yet they haven't produced a single mustang to break into the high 11's bone stock, GM's LS3 Vette has done that with much less HP . I know it's an apples to oranges comparison, but you'd think with the ability to purchase Roush Stage 3, Shelby GT500, and the KR, one of these cars , which are similar in sticker price or higher than the vette, would be able to break 11's.....oh, and get 30mpg.
11-19-2008, 02:21 PM
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I knew my comment would bring heat. Well, thx for clearing up its the Convertible that comes out in 2011. And yes the rumor is that the 2010 GT weighs 150 lbs less. Its just what I heard, why I'm attacked I have no clue. One guy said the base GT now is 27k. No its 25k.
Evilways, I agree with you.
Evilways, I agree with you.
11-19-2008, 03:06 PM
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[QUOTE=Evilways;10510479] 
Don't take this the wrong way but comparing a 2-passenger light weight sportscar to a 4 passenger pony car just doesn't make sense . The Z06 and ZR1 are 11 second cars stock i will not dispute that but the Corvette Z51- LS3 @3273 lbs test weight is not there yet stock.
Rumor going around that the new GT weighs 150 lbs less. And the new Camaro weighs in at 3600. The new GT may weigh 3,250 since the current GT weighs 3400. Have fun with your fat ***. On top of that Ford still has GT500's and every other name of a Mustang to play the 550 hp game.
Ok...500+ HP in some of the mustangs, yet they haven't produced a single mustang to break into the high 11's bone stock, GM's LS3 Vette has done that with much less HP . I know it's an apples to oranges comparison, but you'd think with the ability to purchase Roush Stage 3, Shelby GT500, and the KR, one of these cars , which are similar in sticker price or higher than the vette, would be able to break 11's.....oh, and get 30mpg.
Ok...500+ HP in some of the mustangs, yet they haven't produced a single mustang to break into the high 11's bone stock, GM's LS3 Vette has done that with much less HP . I know it's an apples to oranges comparison, but you'd think with the ability to purchase Roush Stage 3, Shelby GT500, and the KR, one of these cars , which are similar in sticker price or higher than the vette, would be able to break 11's.....oh, and get 30mpg.
Don't take this the wrong way but comparing a 2-passenger light weight sportscar to a 4 passenger pony car just doesn't make sense . The Z06 and ZR1 are 11 second cars stock i will not dispute that but the Corvette Z51- LS3 @3273 lbs test weight is not there yet stock.
11-19-2008, 03:13 PM
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Rumor going around that the new GT weighs 150 lbs less. And the new Camaro weighs in at 3600. The new GT may weigh 3,250 since the current GT weighs 3400. Have fun with your fat ***. On top of that Ford still has GT500's and every other name of a Mustang to play the 550 hp game.
http://www.fordvehicles.com/the2010mustang/
Also note Ford is doing financial better then GM. GM's opel division begged for money in Germany and got it. Ford isn't begging it's foreign countries. Ford is the only one of the three US brands that has more Equity then Debt. So sit on that.
The New GT will come in around 25 to 26k, while the Camaro will hit around 30k. Looks like its another decade of Stang outselling the Camaro.
I also heard GM has pushed the Camaro back to 2011. Sad. So you might as well scratch that on order in your sig to 2011.
http://www.fordvehicles.com/the2010mustang/
Also note Ford is doing financial better then GM. GM's opel division begged for money in Germany and got it. Ford isn't begging it's foreign countries. Ford is the only one of the three US brands that has more Equity then Debt. So sit on that.
The New GT will come in around 25 to 26k, while the Camaro will hit around 30k. Looks like its another decade of Stang outselling the Camaro.
I also heard GM has pushed the Camaro back to 2011. Sad. So you might as well scratch that on order in your sig to 2011.
The Mustang is 3600 to 3700 in GT the 2010 is suppose to gain only 15 pounds over the current car (very respectful that Ford kept it from gaining lotta weight). The Camaro isn't 3600 in SS form it is 3800 to 3900.
You did get the base pricing on the GT about right, the 1SS at 31k has more content than a base GT, to equal the cars out (which isn't possible due to things the GT just don't have) the Mustang will be 27k. To equal the performance the supercharger that the Mustang GT requires another 4 to 5k, so now you have a 31k Mustang that still doesn't have the content the Camaro SS does. Beside your pricing is off the current car, you know there will be a price hike on the 2010 Mustang GT.
Camaro plant is on track for March 2009 delieveries as 2010 model.
Check info before writing that way your breath will not sell of feet.
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11-19-2008, 03:28 PM
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Since when has GM ever done a head/cam kit at the factory, they can't it would have to go through complete emission certification which would be too damn expensive. Even if the dealer cracks the engine open for a head/cam kit even if it is from GMPP, kiss the engine warrenty goodbye. The dealer may sneek engine warrenty work on an car they have done this work too but if GM finds out you'll be footing the bill.
11-19-2008, 03:41 PM
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Rumor going around that the new GT weighs 150 lbs less. And the new Camaro weighs in at 3600. The new GT may weigh 3,250 since the current GT weighs 3400. Have fun with your fat ***. On top of that Ford still has GT500's and every other name of a Mustang to play the 550 hp game.
http://www.fordvehicles.com/the2010mustang/
Also note Ford is doing financial better then GM. GM's opel division begged for money in Germany and got it. Ford isn't begging it's foreign countries. Ford is the only one of the three US brands that has more Equity then Debt. So sit on that.
The New GT will come in around 25 to 26k, while the Camaro will hit around 30k. Looks like its another decade of Stang outselling the Camaro.
I also heard GM has pushed the Camaro back to 2011. Sad. So you might as well scratch that on order in your sig to 2011.
http://www.fordvehicles.com/the2010mustang/
Also note Ford is doing financial better then GM. GM's opel division begged for money in Germany and got it. Ford isn't begging it's foreign countries. Ford is the only one of the three US brands that has more Equity then Debt. So sit on that.
The New GT will come in around 25 to 26k, while the Camaro will hit around 30k. Looks like its another decade of Stang outselling the Camaro.
I also heard GM has pushed the Camaro back to 2011. Sad. So you might as well scratch that on order in your sig to 2011.
11-19-2008, 04:13 PM
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Man somebody sold a load of crap, you just got about everything wrong.
The Mustang is 3600 to 3700 in GT the 2010 is suppose to gain only 15 pounds over the current car (very respectful that Ford kept it from gaining lotta weight). The Camaro isn't 3600 in SS form it is 3800 to 3900.
You did get the base pricing on the GT about right, the 1SS at 31k has more content than a base GT, to equal the cars out (which isn't possible due to things the GT just don't have) the Mustang will be 27k. To equal the performance the supercharger that the Mustang GT requires another 4 to 5k, so now you have a 31k Mustang that still doesn't have the content the Camaro SS does. Beside your pricing is off the current car, you know there will be a price hike on the 2010 Mustang GT.
Camaro plant is on track for March 2009 delieveries as 2010 model.
Check info before writing that way your breath will not sell of feet.
The Mustang is 3600 to 3700 in GT the 2010 is suppose to gain only 15 pounds over the current car (very respectful that Ford kept it from gaining lotta weight). The Camaro isn't 3600 in SS form it is 3800 to 3900.
You did get the base pricing on the GT about right, the 1SS at 31k has more content than a base GT, to equal the cars out (which isn't possible due to things the GT just don't have) the Mustang will be 27k. To equal the performance the supercharger that the Mustang GT requires another 4 to 5k, so now you have a 31k Mustang that still doesn't have the content the Camaro SS does. Beside your pricing is off the current car, you know there will be a price hike on the 2010 Mustang GT.
Camaro plant is on track for March 2009 delieveries as 2010 model.
Check info before writing that way your breath will not sell of feet.
about the weight
http://www.supercars.net/cars/2742.html
3500
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...22/138160.html
3480
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=105085
GT500 estimated at 3600 it has a 5.4 liter with a super charger. And is clearly heavier then the GT.
http://www.cars.com/go/crp/research....=&aff=national
3,450
Prices Base GT is 23,900 Premium GT is 25,625.
http://bp2.forddirect.fordvehicles.c...#page=/Models/
So I could buy a base GT at 23,900 and add 4k in performance mods and sit at 27k and still 3k cheaper then the new Camaro.
What where you saying about me and my foot in my mouth and the GT's weight?
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Since when has GM ever done a head/cam kit at the factory, they can't it would have to go through complete emission certification which would be too damn expensive. Even if the dealer cracks the engine open for a head/cam kit even if it is from GMPP, kiss the engine warrenty goodbye. The dealer may sneek engine warrenty work on an car they have done this work too but if GM finds out you'll be footing the bill.
GMPP is offering a cam, sir. ;-)
11-19-2008, 05:03 PM
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Hey blue oval turbo. Ive got a news flash for you.
The M6 LS3 vettes dyno in the 370-390 rwhp range stock.
The fastest stock LS3 vette has run a 11.74@119.94
Go check corvetteforum.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSsR-...eature=channel
this vid says an 11.718...so im not sure what the record is now
The M6 LS3 vettes dyno in the 370-390 rwhp range stock.
The fastest stock LS3 vette has run a 11.74@119.94
Go check corvetteforum.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSsR-...eature=channel
this vid says an 11.718...so im not sure what the record is now
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11-19-2008, 05:29 PM
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about the weight
http://www.supercars.net/cars/2742.html
3500
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...22/138160.html
3480
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=105085
GT500 estimated at 3600 it has a 5.4 liter with a super charger. And is clearly heavier then the GT.
http://www.supercars.net/cars/2742.html
3500
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...22/138160.html
3480
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=105085
GT500 estimated at 3600 it has a 5.4 liter with a super charger. And is clearly heavier then the GT.
http://www.mustangevolution.com/20071211609/
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11-19-2008, 05:46 PM
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about the weight
http://www.supercars.net/cars/2742.html
3500
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...22/138160.html
3480
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=105085
GT500 estimated at 3600 it has a 5.4 liter with a super charger. And is clearly heavier then the GT.
http://www.cars.com/go/crp/research....=&aff=national
3,450
Prices Base GT is 23,900 Premium GT is 25,625.
http://bp2.forddirect.fordvehicles.c...#page=/Models/
So I could buy a base GT at 23,900 and add 4k in performance mods and sit at 27k and still 3k cheaper then the new Camaro.
What where you saying about me and my foot in my mouth and the GT's weight?
http://www.supercars.net/cars/2742.html
3500
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...22/138160.html
3480
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=105085
GT500 estimated at 3600 it has a 5.4 liter with a super charger. And is clearly heavier then the GT.
http://www.cars.com/go/crp/research....=&aff=national
3,450
Prices Base GT is 23,900 Premium GT is 25,625.
http://bp2.forddirect.fordvehicles.c...#page=/Models/
So I could buy a base GT at 23,900 and add 4k in performance mods and sit at 27k and still 3k cheaper then the new Camaro.
What where you saying about me and my foot in my mouth and the GT's weight?
The Mustang GT's weight is over the 3400lbs you claimed, GT500 is 3900lbs, and the base price for a Mustang GT according to Ford's site is $27,210.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...omparison_test
http://www.fordvehicles.com/cars/mus...dels/index.asp
11-19-2008, 06:02 PM
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Why are you always wrong?
The Mustang GT's weight is over the 3400lbs you claimed, GT500 is 3900lbs, and the base price for a Mustang GT according to Ford's site is $27,210.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...omparison_test
http://www.fordvehicles.com/cars/mus...dels/index.asp
The Mustang GT's weight is over the 3400lbs you claimed, GT500 is 3900lbs, and the base price for a Mustang GT according to Ford's site is $27,210.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...omparison_test
http://www.fordvehicles.com/cars/mus...dels/index.asp
So your point is useless.Also click on this link.
http://bp2.forddirect.fordvehicles.c...#page=/Models/
Click the coupe option then type in your area code and it will list four more options
Better yet I'll take a pic.
11-19-2008, 06:04 PM
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The Mustang GT is going to weight less than the SS,the Mustang GT is going to weight around 3600lbs which isn't bad by today's standards.
Also wait for 2011,the car is going to get a MOD All Aluminuim DOHC 5.0L 400hp engine,I cant wait to see how the engine responds to mods.
Another thing is that Curb weights arn't really accurate,some Gt500's actually weights 38XX lbs but the weight they advertise is with the Best sound system I believe.
Also wait for 2011,the car is going to get a MOD All Aluminuim DOHC 5.0L 400hp engine,I cant wait to see how the engine responds to mods.
Another thing is that Curb weights arn't really accurate,some Gt500's actually weights 38XX lbs but the weight they advertise is with the Best sound system I believe.
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11-19-2008, 06:08 PM
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I pulled my GT on a weight scale once at a truck stop. 96 manual GT, with me half tank of gas and college books it was 3450. I weighed around 180 at the time.
11-19-2008, 06:18 PM
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The current GT weighs in starting at 3500 and can go upwards of about 3550 with various options. There's no official weight on the 2010's, but since its the same chassis and same drivetrain....I'd venture to guess that it won't be picking up that much weight. Not enough to put it into the 3600+lb range with no options. There's nothing new in that car that's gonna magically add 150+lbs. Maybe once you add in every available option it could creap upward of 3600 lbs and some change, but the same thing will happen when you start heavily optioning any car, the Camaro included.
As for the GT500, the current model weighs in at 3920 lbs. There's been no release yet on what changes (if any) are gonna take place on the 2010 Shelby/Cobra. Some have said Ford will be replacing the 5.4 with the new 4V 5.0, some have said they will be doing an aluminum block 5.4 (which could shave almost 150 lbs off from the current iron block), and some maintain that the drivetrain isn't changing......just a HP bump. Time will tell I suppose.
As for the GT500, the current model weighs in at 3920 lbs. There's been no release yet on what changes (if any) are gonna take place on the 2010 Shelby/Cobra. Some have said Ford will be replacing the 5.4 with the new 4V 5.0, some have said they will be doing an aluminum block 5.4 (which could shave almost 150 lbs off from the current iron block), and some maintain that the drivetrain isn't changing......just a HP bump. Time will tell I suppose.
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Here (link) the v6 will be in the 3400 range and the GT will be in the 3560 range, "15lbs will be added to the 2010 GT and 35lbs to the V6 over the previous version as a result of the new heavier wheels". Add a supercharger to that and you break 3600lbs. Also keep in mind the glass roof option has not been taken into account anywhere that i have seen, but than again i highly doubt a drag racer will want a glass roof. IT WILL NOT BE LOSING 150 lbs.
Now quite your bitching, cause the 200-240lbs diff in weight is not going to bridge the power gap plain and simple so i don't see why it's that big a deal.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...l_economy.html
Now quite your bitching, cause the 200-240lbs diff in weight is not going to bridge the power gap plain and simple so i don't see why it's that big a deal.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...l_economy.html
