TT C6

I think a TVS 2300 should be an ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT OPTION for the 2010 Camaro to be dealer installed. A option package would feature conservative boost/timing, and be offered as a package with a limited warranty.
I ESPECIALLY think this should be an option if the Z28 is really dead.

If not, I think GM Performance Parts should AT LEAST offer a TVS 2300 package for the 2010 Camaro/G8. It would offer a solution for everyone.

badaSS346

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It will never happen. They will never put a warrenty on a high compression boosted car. It is just asking for trouble. You will be able to build something better anyway.

TT C6

11.0- LS7
10.7- LS3
10.4- L76
10.1- LS1
9.1- LS9

The GT's 10:4 to 1 isn't low compression, but it's better than the LS3.

badaSS346

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Wait what point are you trying to make? Ford has the money to warrenty this kind of stuff right now. GM does not. A ls1, l76, ls4, and definatley a ls7 has to high of compression to safely warrenty it....not saying it wont last. Think about it. Let say gm warrenties this with a 5 psi pulley...whats the first thing you do when you want more power...change the pulley...blow it up...put original pulley back on...tow the car to the deal and tell them to give you a new motor. They are not that dumb.

TT C6

If they would stand by the warranty, I'd be happy with a warrantied 5psi and add boost when the warranty period was up.

BanditTA

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They have in the past for the cavalier and cobalt. Granted we are talking more HP output, but the principles are the same.

badaSS346

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Its all about $$$$. how much will it bring in and how much will it cost in warrenty work. siting the cavalier and the cobolt are comparing apples and oranges.

TT C6

I'm glad someone sees my point.

nanokpsi

The Z28 and convertible are shelved, to prevent people from saying "I want this, but I am waiting for the "x" to come out. They need to make all the sales they can right now.

Kind of like how Ford has not set the new motors for the GT and GT500 in stone yet. They need people to buy the current car.

If you really want a tvs 2300 with a warranty, buy the magnacharger kit and pay the extra 200 for the warranty

shudog

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Am I a big dumbie for not instantly knowing what a TVS 2300 is?

BLUE OVAL TURBO

The GT has a compression ratio of 9.8:1.

LorcinLs1

and exactly what reliable source said the Z28 was dead???? here we go again with clowns repeating what the heard from non reliable sources.

kmracer

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its a supercharger that eaton just came out recently. its pretty top notch stuff, capable of something like 1000hp.



beastly.

88blackgt

where have you been?

TT C6

The 2009 Corvette ZR1 comes with the TVS 2300 as the stock supercharger from the factory.
The 2009 Cadillac CTS-V comes with the TVS 1900 as the stock supercharger from the factory.

If anyone is considering adding ANY power to their G8 or Camaro, the TVS 2300 should be your 1st mod. Headers and a tune are good, but you cannot beat the bang-for-buck the TVS 2300 will give you.

Also, skip the TVS 1900. The 2300 comes on a $120,000 ZR1 and the TVS 1900 comes on the $60,000 CTS. You cannot upgrade a TVS 1900 to a TVS 2300. Spend the little extra $$$ and get the RIGHT blower the 1st time.

Scoggin Dickey

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They are talking about GM engines and referencing the G8 GT, not the Mustang.

The 1900 is appropriately sized for a lot of applications. Many people do not need a 2300 and the higher cost for an upgrade that will never be needed is not justifiable. Many people don't want to push it with boost, go forged, go bigger cubes etc. The consensus on this site is that you are never done upgrading because that's how many of us are (me included), but the majority of customers aren't like that and an out of the box 1900 setup is more than enough to satisfy them for the long haul. You can't just make a blanket statement about how the 1900 is the wrong choice and you're messing up to not get a 2300 in the first place, different people have different desires, budgets, goals, and want different end results. I am a prime example. I can have any blower I want, and I'll most likely be rockin a 1900. Heck, the car may never even see a dragstrip, as it will be my wife's DD and she just wants a blower.

TT C6

Before I respond to you, let's get the following out of the way.

What is the ACTUAL difference in COST between the TVS 1900 and TVS 2300 ???

gectek

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You know, i would try to see things from your point of view, but i cannot physically get my head that far up my ***. Be that as it may, you logistically COULD upgrade to the 2300 from the 1900 as they are for the same design port on the head. BUT....why should GM, or anyone on this board, listen to you? You say GM MUST DO THIS. I bet thats what your mom said to your dad when you were conceived. "I dont want it in the butt anymore, YOU MUST DO THIS."

But wait, there is more!!!! If you are so high and mighty and all knowing, then why have you not FIRST posted a what heads/cam/longtubes thread? Because we all know the tech masters always do this first.
Second, why do you come on here pouting about how GM has to do this and has to do that, when they dont have to do a damned thing you want. You are thinking little in a big world. Maybe you need to change your pampers and wear some grownup underwear for a change. **** happens, and not only in your diaper. Third...you know that you are not allowed to think anyway. I have more thought put into dropping the deuce in the toilet than you have put into your thread here.

Wake up and smell the roses. Leave thinking for the people that are qualified

Scoggin Dickey

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It is assumable that we are talking about Maggie prices, because GM doesn't have an outright "kit" to price to you. For the actual parts used on the production cars, the price difference is immense between the two setups. For sensibility sake we will talk about the Maggie because the G8 kit will basically get a few different brackets and a different intake pipe and will then be a Camaro kit. Retail price increase from the 1900 to the 2300 will be $800-$1000.

You can formulate your response, but I'm not going to argue with you over what you think is not only the right blower choice for every single modded car, but is also the only right choice for modding a car period, as you put it. We discuss people goals and desires daily to get them exactly what they want and need, and I can tell you straight up that not everyone wants a blower instead of bolt-ons at all, let alone the bigger blower because of it's potential.

The correct way thing to do it is to approach every car and owner as a clean slate, listen to their desires, pitch them options and pricing based on what they are going for, and make the best decision off of that. Some people want to spend $1000-$2500 and have a great performing bolt-on and maybe cammed car, not $6000 + and then another $800 to upgrade the blower they didn't want in the first place. There is no cut and dry answer as to what THE best setup is when modding a car because not everyone wants the same end result, let alone the same route to get there.

TT C6

Bolt-ons are great, but even a TVS 1900 is a better investment compared to bolt-ons only. When you do the dollar/performance comparison between ALL the bolt ons and a TVS blower, the right choice becomes obvious.

I really wanted to hear the COST difference. But, even an $800 increase is money well spent for insurance in case you want more power down the road. If not, the $800 for the bigger blower will make your blower, and car, easier to sell. I say this because we all know it's much better to underdrive a PD blower than overdrive one. The larger blower will have a wider market. We all know the bigger blower will deliver instant boost, even when underdriven, because of the PD design.




I really want to hear what you have to say in person to make sure the content remains the same. What's the location and time of the next event you will be attending?????