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Old 05-04-2009, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix C
I always thought 1969 was the least desired year. clunkier looking than the 67-68 and 1970-1091 years.

I think only the mystique of the ZL1 and COPO Camaros of 69 make that year worth remembering. This appears much like a 1969.

Onlly poor gringo cochinos in high school drove this car. Everyone else had a late model Z or TA.
Well, that is the exact opposite of what the market says... 1969 is the one that brings in the big money and I say rightly so.

The 1967 was bland, the 1968 had some hideous aspects (the inside lights) and the 1969 actually had hips, aggressive front fenders, etc...

I do like the 1970-71 split bumpers as well though
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Originally Posted by Felix C
I always thought 1969 was the least desired year. clunkier looking than the 67-68 and 1970-1981 years.

I think only the mystique of the ZL1 and COPO Camaros of 69 make that year worth remembering. This appears much like a 1969.

Onlly poor gringo cochinos in high school drove this car. Everyone else had a late model Z or TA.

Are you mildly retarded?
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Originally Posted by Felix C
I always thought 1969 was the least desired year. clunkier looking than the 67-68 and 1970-1981 years.

I think only the mystique of the ZL1 and COPO Camaros of 69 make that year worth remembering. This appears much like a 1969.

Onlly poor gringo cochinos in high school drove this car. Everyone else had a late model Z or TA.
Watch any auctions lately? The world disagrees with you........or maybe everyone driving a Honda or Toyota (who wouldn't know a decent looking car if hit them in the face) agrees with you.
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Originally Posted by chrisdacarnut
Are you mildly retarded?
No rather intelligent actually. What problem do you have? ********?

New camaro looks as a 1969. I stated my opinion. That is all. It is an ugly car unless one actually likes 1969 camaros.

What ******** on this site.

Having owned a 19701/2 Trans Am, 1979 Trans Am, 5.0 Liter mustang, and a GTO. I think I know what a good looking car is.
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Originally Posted by Felix C
No rather intelligent actually. What problem do you have? ********?

New camaro looks as a 1969. I stated my opinion. That is all. It is an ugly car unless one actually likes 1969 camaros.

What ******** on this site.

Having owned a 19701/2 Trans Am, 1979 Trans Am, 5.0 Liter mustang, and a GTO. I think I know what a good looking car is.
Learn to spell, and be grammatically correct if you want to convince people you are intelligent.

And thinking a 1979 Trans Am looks good goes to show you don't know what a good looking vehicle looks like. You should have stuck with the mustang.
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The car looks amazing.

But-

When guys called 03 Cobras and GTO's pigs @ 3600lbs, what do we call a 3900lb Camaro with near 400rwhp and only trapping 111?

It would have been perfect @ 3500 lbs. Guys are going to have thier work cut out to trap 125-130 with them. 40-50 Rolls will suffer for sure.
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^^New SS only put like 354 to the wheels at Invasion yesterday... I could be a little off on the numbers but it is that range for sure...

The dyno wasn't a stingy dyno either...
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Originally Posted by JayplaySS2
The car looks amazing.

But-

When guys called 03 Cobras and GTO's pigs @ 3600lbs, what do we call a 3900lb Camaro with near 400rwhp and only trapping 111?

It would have been perfect @ 3500 lbs. Guys are going to have thier work cut out to trap 125-130 with them. 40-50 Rolls will suffer for sure.
True that it would have been the perfect 1/4 mile car if it was 3500 lbs. But they need to sell this car to a lot more people to keep it around, and they put the money into the overall refinement of the car instead of building a Camaro specific lightweight chassis that hot rodders would love. I think it was a compromise to keep the costs under control, so I am ok with it if it means I have something other than a mustang to consider.
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Originally Posted by 6LITEREATER
^^New SS only put like 354 to the wheels at Invasion yesterday... I could be a little off on the numbers but it is that range for sure...

The dyno wasn't a stingy dyno either...
I have seen as high as 370 and I wasn't clear really, I meant that with a CAI/Tune, they will be @ 400rwhp +/- running 12.50's @ 111 (in the vid).

I just wish the car was 3500lbs, I would actually buy one myself.
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Originally Posted by rayhawk
True that it would have been the perfect 1/4 mile car if it was 3500 lbs. But they need to sell this car to a lot more people to keep it around, and they put the money into the overall refinement of the car instead of building a Camaro specific lightweight chassis that hot rodders would love. I think it was a compromise to keep the costs under control, so I am ok with it if it means I have something other than a mustang to consider.
I hear you and agree but Ford built the Mustang GT (N/A V8) with excellent refinement @ 3500-3600lbs. Lets just hope they will sell.
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Originally Posted by JayplaySS2
I hear you and agree but Ford built the Mustang GT (N/A V8) with excellent refinement @ 3500-3600lbs. Lets just hope they will sell.
I think that Ford had the advantage of much higher sales, and they knew they could sell enough mustangs to cover the cost of its own chassis, and obviously they never stopped making it. They didn't have to start with a sedan platform to make the car (and make money doing it). I am sure that the camaro could be made lighter, it is just a matter of how many they can sell and dealing with the added cost of a designated chassis, i.e. along the lines of the Corvette.

I think the Mustang will start to put on more weight if they go with a bigger DOHC motor, 6 speed transmission, etc, so I wouldn't be surprised to see the car reach 3650lbs or so, but it should still have at least 200 lbs on the Camaro.



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