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2009 Camaro engine choices, rear end, and more?

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Old 09-27-2007, 05:22 PM
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I had heard of a Gto 6.0 ls2 in the v8 2009 camaro and a 3.9 vvt in the v6 version...The car would also be released late 2008 as a 2009 model...by the way doesn anyone know the prices? As i know chevrolet wants to make the camro fast but not too fast so it wont be faster or close to the corvette so i think the ls7 wont happen.
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Originally Posted by camaro981289
I had heard of a Gto 6.0 ls2 in the v8 2009 camaro and a 3.9 vvt in the v6 version...The car would also be released late 2008 as a 2009 model...by the way doesn anyone know the prices? As i know chevrolet wants to make the camro fast but not too fast so it wont be faster or close to the corvette so i think the ls7 wont happen.

The 5th Gen Camaro goes into production in the fourth quarter of 2008 and will be at the dealers during in the first quarter of 2009. The LS2 will not be in production any longer. It should have the LS3 or an upgrade of the LS3 (direct injection maybe) Price will not be announced until the cars arrive at the dealerships or right before they arrive. LS7 will not happen. They can barely build enough of them for the Z06.
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my theory: look at the past. 1985 L98 in corvette
1986 L98 in camaro (yes it was in some camaros)

1992 LT1 offered in corvette
1993 LT1 offered in camaro

1997 LS1 in Corvette
1998 LS1 in Camaro

2008 LS3 in corvette
2009 LS3 in Camaro
thats what I think lol
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i may be completely wrong here and i may be just beliveing magazine rumors to much but the other day while at the store i picked up a magazine talking about the 2010 corvette and it said that some people in gm are pushing for a base front engine corvette and a z06 rear engine vette, also it said there pushing to make the corvette its own brand and chevy not being in its name anymore i think that would be great because the camaro wouldnt be at all competing with it anymore and gm wouldnt have to do stupid stuff like detuning and underrateting its engines in \other cars to make the vette look better, i like the ls3 idea for the new camaro sorry for no punctuation in a hurry just my 2 cents
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Motor Trend (one of the worst) like all auto rags sells magazines by printing controversial articles... this is more commonly known as BS .. ... For the Corvette to be what is always has been ... the most bang for the buck in a high performance sports car the platforum will be consistant...meaning do not look for two different chassis layouts and dont look for the engine to be in the rear on the C7..they are on the verge of pushing the car out of its market at this time..they like to sell 35,000 units a year and for that to keep happening it needs to remain close to the price point that is it now .... just an FYI for you the engines in the F body cars were not detuned they were almost identicle they were just rated different on paper for Vette owners egos ... generally speaking if you dyno a stock Vette (C5) against a 1998-2002 F body the F body will put down 5 or 10 more HP..I have seen it happen many times .. the IRS on the Vette uses more HP to get the power on the ground than the F body does with a more energy efficient straight rear axle ...
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Since GM has had their head up their asses for the last 5 years, all your gonna get is a Camaro that has an outdated style & a 400hp base engine that is going to cost you $32,000, + the greedy dealer markups..So if you don't have money to put down, I hope you can afford a $600+ monthly payment plus a reaming by your insurance companies. The $25,000 Camaro's are in the past...
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Originally Posted by Dan
Since GM has had their head up their asses for the last 5 years, all your gonna get is a Camaro that has an outdated style & a 400hp base engine that is going to cost you $32,000, + the greedy dealer markups..So if you don't have money to put down, I hope you can afford a $600+ monthly payment plus a reaming by your insurance companies. The $25,000 V8Camaro's are in the past...
Fixed. lol
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Some forums have a "quick info" 2nd post area after the first post. I wish this thread had it because I don't have the patience to review all 7 pages of what's in here.

But the Camaro's will have the 3.5L V6, 3.6L V6 (DOHC) and a 6.2L V8. The exact state of tunes, etc., are still up in the air, but these are the basic engine architectures being used. There's no plan for power adders at launch, nor is there anything saying these choices might not be revised sooner or later. If you know GM powertrains at all, it isn't too hard to figure out what these engines are and how they might evolve during the fifth gen.

I doubt this will mean much in a 7 page thread of arguments, but this is what is going in the cars. You can choose to believe it or not, but it is what it is. I'm sorry if 20 other people have said this, but like I said, thread's too long.

Oh, and the car has to be competitively priced to the Mustang. Whether or not real market prices will reflect that at first is a different discussion.

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Originally Posted by todddchi
Some forums have a "quick info" 2nd post area after the first post. I wish this thread had it because I don't have the patience to review all 7 pages of what's in here.

But the Camaro's will have the 3.5L V6, 3.6L V6 (DOHC) and a 6.2L V8. The exact state of tunes, etc., are still up in the air, but these are the basic engine architectures being used. There's no plan for power adders at launch, nor is there anything saying these choices might not be revised sooner or later. If you know GM powertrains at all, it isn't too hard to figure out what these engines are and how they might evolve during the fifth gen.

I doubt this will mean much in a 7 page thread of arguments, but this is what is going in the cars. You can choose to believe it or not, but it is what it is. I'm sorry if 20 other people have said this, but like I said, thread's too long.

Oh, and the car has to be competitively priced to the Mustang. Whether or not real market prices will reflect that at first is a different discussion.
+1. Although I'd wager they would probably use the 3.9L from the Impy instead of the 3.5L.
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^ agree, i dont think they will do a whole lot of different packages the first production though, i think you will start seeing the upgrades after the first year or so.
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This is how I would LOVE to see it.

Base V6 3.9L VVT
V8 Camaro having the LS3
and then since they are coming out with the ZR-1 vette, why not make a ZL-1 camaro with either the LS7 or something else. I know these would be priced significantly higher, but the ZL-1 option on the 69 was more than the price of the car!!
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Well, the 3.5L motor has more hp and similar torque output to the old 3.8, and the 3.8L 4th gens were perfectly serviceable cars. It is basically GM's value V6 moving forward.

Lots of people should be interested in the link below, GM publishes a lot of really good engineering / technical information if you know where to dig:

http://media.gm.com/us/powertrain/en...GM35LV6ENGINES
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Originally Posted by todddchi
Well, the 3.5L motor has more hp and similar torque output to the old 3.8, and the 3.8L 4th gens were perfectly serviceable cars. It is basically GM's value V6 moving forward.

Lots of people should be interested in the link below, GM publishes a lot of really good engineering / technical information if you know where to dig:

http://media.gm.com/us/powertrain/en...GM35LV6ENGINES
The only issue I have with this is that the 3.5L would be perfect for taking on the Mustang 4.0L, but I heard that they plan to replace the exploder V6 with the new 3.5L, which puts out more in the ~250hp range, which is 3.9L VVT territory. The other thing is that I'm not sure that the 3.5L has DoD like the 3.9L does it? That would be a huge detriment to the fuel economy in V6 models, which I'm sure are going to be sharing a tranny with the Colorado/Canyon/i-series.



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