2009 Camaro Engine!
06-03-2007, 11:55 AM
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2009 Camaro Engine! So we all know the 2009 camaro will not be getting a LS2, nor a LS7!
We camaro fans know this much, when the corvette debuted the LT1 in 1992, the camaro and the bird got that engine the next year in 1993! Then the corvette got an LT4 in 1996!
Then the 1997 corvette got the LS1, in 1998 the camaro/firebird got the LS1, and the vette got the LS6 in 2001!
Then in 2002 vette got the LS2, in 2003 the GTO got the LS2. Then the vette got the LS7 in 2006!
See a pattern! 2008 the corvette has confirmed the LS3 6.2L V8 430hp!
Guess what were getting in 2009 in the Camaro! And later the vette will get a higher performance engine to seperate the vette from the camaro (there has been much speculation on a 650hp supercharged LS3(LS9))!
i am just praying that the car will be affordable.... i am not looking for a 650hp camaro, i am looking for an affordable performance car with a V8!
so what do you guys think of my theory that the 2009 camaro will have a LS3 6.2L 430hp engine!
We camaro fans know this much, when the corvette debuted the LT1 in 1992, the camaro and the bird got that engine the next year in 1993! Then the corvette got an LT4 in 1996!
Then the 1997 corvette got the LS1, in 1998 the camaro/firebird got the LS1, and the vette got the LS6 in 2001!
Then in 2002 vette got the LS2, in 2003 the GTO got the LS2. Then the vette got the LS7 in 2006!
See a pattern! 2008 the corvette has confirmed the LS3 6.2L V8 430hp!
Guess what were getting in 2009 in the Camaro! And later the vette will get a higher performance engine to seperate the vette from the camaro (there has been much speculation on a 650hp supercharged LS3(LS9))!
i am just praying that the car will be affordable.... i am not looking for a 650hp camaro, i am looking for an affordable performance car with a V8!
so what do you guys think of my theory that the 2009 camaro will have a LS3 6.2L 430hp engine!
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06-03-2007, 07:43 PM
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i figured that the LS3 would be out just in time for the new Camaro to get one. so, i agree with our theroy.
i just hope GM doesn't puss out and put a 5.3 in them!
i just hope GM doesn't puss out and put a 5.3 in them!
06-03-2007, 09:03 PM
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You know, that does make some sence, then again who knows what tricks GM has up it's sleaves.
If it's a 5.3L I'd want it to be ohc it'll be even more like the old 327s just think you could have 400/400 pretty easy while still being quite easy to run and turning 7K.
If it's a 5.3L I'd want it to be ohc it'll be even more like the old 327s just think you could have 400/400 pretty easy while still being quite easy to run and turning 7K.
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06-04-2007, 12:59 AM
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i figured that the LS3 would be out just in time for the new Camaro to get one. so, i agree with our theroy.
i just hope GM doesn't puss out and put a 5.3 in them!
i just hope GM doesn't puss out and put a 5.3 in them!
06-04-2007, 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ReFtheMC
I Dont Think They Would Go From A 5.7 To A 5.3, But Then Again, Who Knows?.....
why not they went from 350 to 346. they already have 5.3L that are making as much or more hp than the LS1s in z28 and trans ams. 305 to 320 hp is weak for 346 cid but is being done by some 5.3L. i wouldn't be suprized to see a 5.3L z28 4.6L mustang/ 5.7 hemi killer and a 6.2L SS 6.1L srt killer.
face it with the 4.6L, the mustang is just a blip but the challenger is the target. to that end too i wouldn't be suprised to see a 5.4L mustang as a GT with the 4.6L just in trucks when the camaro and challenger come around because how else will it be able to compete that if GM prices the camaro the same as the mustang. what would you reither have....25K 4.6L 300hp mustang or 32K 5.3L/6.2L 350/425hp camaro. of course it the camaro but its the wrong price. i hope and pray the camaro V8 option base price is 25K.
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My vote still goes to the LS-2 if for no other reason than production issues. The LS-1 goes in many vehicles from cars to trucks.
The LS-2 is the logical engine. Watch out for the big time h.p. coming out of the LS-1. It's still 303 in the Impala and MCarlo, more in trucks. Where that h.p. is delivered is very important in the performance of a car.
The LS-2 is the logical engine. Watch out for the big time h.p. coming out of the LS-1. It's still 303 in the Impala and MCarlo, more in trucks. Where that h.p. is delivered is very important in the performance of a car.
06-04-2007, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ReFtheMC
I Dont Think They Would Go From A 5.7 To A 5.3, But Then Again, Who Knows?.....
06-04-2007, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Jakes Dad
My vote still goes to the LS-2 if for no other reason than production issues. The LS-1 goes in many vehicles from cars to trucks.
The LS-2 is the logical engine. Watch out for the big time h.p. coming out of the LS-1. It's still 303 in the Impala and MCarlo, more in trucks. Where that h.p. is delivered is very important in the performance of a car.
The LS-2 is the logical engine. Watch out for the big time h.p. coming out of the LS-1. It's still 303 in the Impala and MCarlo, more in trucks. Where that h.p. is delivered is very important in the performance of a car.
06-04-2007, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Jakes Dad
My vote still goes to the LS-2 if for no other reason than production issues. The LS-1 goes in many vehicles from cars to trucks.
The LS-2 is the logical engine. Watch out for the big time h.p. coming out of the LS-1. It's still 303 in the Impala and MCarlo, more in trucks. Where that h.p. is delivered is very important in the performance of a car.
The LS-2 is the logical engine. Watch out for the big time h.p. coming out of the LS-1. It's still 303 in the Impala and MCarlo, more in trucks. Where that h.p. is delivered is very important in the performance of a car.
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Hey there guys, I'm new here, but I'm a salesman for a Chevy Dealership, so I will try to drop any inside info I hear from my GM Rep. As of today, there is No Plan to put the LS3 motor in the Camaro, The production motor is still listed as the LS2.
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Dealer Reps! Cool, I am also at a dealership. My impression of MOST reps. Someone who can't make it in commission sales. The first Camaro I sold and owned was in 1968.
If I were on the design team. I would dump the pushrod engine. It began in 1955. It's a great engine. But many other manufacturers have proven you can take smaller engines, add valves, add something to push more air and fuel through it and come out with more hp. Less weight, better balance, better mpg. You might also slide on past the insurance companies. The buyer of the new Camaro can almost expect to get RAPED.
If I were on the design team. I would dump the pushrod engine. It began in 1955. It's a great engine. But many other manufacturers have proven you can take smaller engines, add valves, add something to push more air and fuel through it and come out with more hp. Less weight, better balance, better mpg. You might also slide on past the insurance companies. The buyer of the new Camaro can almost expect to get RAPED.
06-04-2007, 01:24 PM
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i say they make a heritage edition.. with using a 6.0 block.. make a 302ci.. road racing car..(because it now has IRS) and make that engine rev to 8K+.. be it a stripper camaro.. roll up windows, manual door locks.. 6 speed, no A/C.. no radio.. more conforming seats.. a few extra gauges.. id buy that..
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Originally Posted by Ginnmotorco
Hey there guys, I'm new here, but I'm a salesman for a Chevy Dealership, so I will try to drop any inside info I hear from my GM Rep. As of today, there is No Plan to put the LS3 motor in the Camaro, The production motor is still listed as the LS2.
06-04-2007, 07:01 PM
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it is a quite reasonable theory that the LS3 will be our biggest engine choice in the camaro.
we know that gm will never ever put a huge engine in a car deemed for the value market due to competition to the vette.
even if the LS7 was continuing production, we would never see it in the camaro do to high manufacturing costs, which would lead to low profitability. remember, gm's plan is to make a good return financially on the car. A crate LS7 is worth $13,000.00!
The LS3 would be the obvious choice for the large engine due to economies of scale, most parts are already mass produced!
and the 5.3L would also be a smart move for gm as the middle engine option for the sake of economies of scale on a extremly mass produced engine!
The biggest question is not whether or not GM is putting the LS3 in the camaro, we all know that answer!
The question is, will GM give us 5.3L in the camaro as well! I know many people on this forum figure the 5.3L has no right in the camaro, but think of the market opportunity GM will shun if they don't put the 5.3L in the camaro!
I say bring on the 5.3L for me...
... not too big, not too small, just the size of montreal!
we know that gm will never ever put a huge engine in a car deemed for the value market due to competition to the vette.
even if the LS7 was continuing production, we would never see it in the camaro do to high manufacturing costs, which would lead to low profitability. remember, gm's plan is to make a good return financially on the car. A crate LS7 is worth $13,000.00!
The LS3 would be the obvious choice for the large engine due to economies of scale, most parts are already mass produced!
and the 5.3L would also be a smart move for gm as the middle engine option for the sake of economies of scale on a extremly mass produced engine!
The biggest question is not whether or not GM is putting the LS3 in the camaro, we all know that answer!
The question is, will GM give us 5.3L in the camaro as well! I know many people on this forum figure the 5.3L has no right in the camaro, but think of the market opportunity GM will shun if they don't put the 5.3L in the camaro!
I say bring on the 5.3L for me...
... not too big, not too small, just the size of montreal!