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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by hc8719
If that blog from dragtimes is correct, the LS3 Camaro should have no problem, especially if GM feels there is enough weight difference that they don't need to detune the Camaro's LS3
I read in one of the mags right when the GT500 was released that it only ran a 12.8. I think if for some reason by god or somethin that this car comes out around 3500-3700lbs I think the car has a damm good chance to. We know modding it u can. But stock for stock we'll see.
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 08:36 AM
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There's so much different information going around at this point, it's just speculation. The LS2 will be out of production by the time the Camaro production starts up, so I 'll doubt we'll see that engine.

Here's my guess:

Base Engine - V6
V8 Engine 1 - 5.3 with active fuel management or DOD
V8 Engine 2 - 6.2 LS3
V8 Engine 3 - LS7 or LS9 (imagine a SS 427)
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Heavy H.P.
I read in one of the mags right when the GT500 was released that it only ran a 12.8. I think if for some reason by god or somethin that this car comes out around 3500-3700lbs I think the car has a damm good chance to. We know modding it u can. But stock for stock we'll see.
i was thining that the gt500 was even closer to 4k pounds than that...?
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 11:35 PM
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GM's losing money all the time. The best thing for them to do is save by only using 2 engines. I would expect a 3600, and an LS3 for the SS and Z/28. Make the Z/28 the base V8 model and the make the numbers look nice on the HP ratings for the SS so nobody buys the new 400+HP Challenger that's gonna be a boat by the way. A tuned LS3 in the camaro would blow the Challenger, and anything with an SRT badge (except a Viper) out of the water - no pun intended.
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 04:03 AM
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Quit your bitching. An LS3 is enough for a Camaro. Either take the strip down V8 model and mod the hell out of it or go buy the new Z07. If GM wanted another Corvette, they would have made one. You can't have 2 exotics in the GM lineup.
thank you, thats well put. dont get me wrong people, I love the new camaro and Im going to get one, but the camaro is suppose to be the every man's sports(muscle) car, its not going to have some rediculously high HP engine, thats what the vette is for. now Im not saying they are going to ***** whip it but Im not holding my breath for a 500hp model or anything like that. I think a 400hp LS3 camaro would be able to hold its own very well. The only reason ford makes a 500hp+ mustang is because they dont have a car like the vette, so its like their flagship horsepower car.steps off soapbox.
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevano26
thank you, thats well put. dont get me wrong people, I love the new camaro and Im going to get one, but the camaro is suppose to be the every man's sports(muscle) car, its not going to have some rediculously high HP engine, thats what the vette is for. now Im not saying they are going to ***** whip it but Im not holding my breath for a 500hp model or anything like that. I think a 400hp LS3 camaro would be able to hold its own very well. The only reason ford makes a 500hp+ mustang is because they dont have a car like the vette, so its like their flagship horsepower car.steps off soapbox.
They have the Ford GT though that competes with the Z06.
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by titaniumSS
They have the Ford GT though that competes with the Z06.
its no longer in production. it was a short build car, just so they could show that they could do it, and they did it damn good. but its still not a vette type of car.
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 12:47 PM
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GM is not going to drop the top of the line Gt500 killer on us within the first production year. Let's get the bread and butter V6's and an LS3 SS out before a forced induction 6.2 comes out. GM has something like 3 6.2 supercharged engines and the top one (LS9) is going in the vette. Some lower hp non inter-cooled engines are being made for the escalade and new CTS-V's. I wouln't be surprised to see one of these supercharged 6.2's in the new camaro in 2010 or 2011 making around 550 hp.
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 05:50 PM
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If the 2 V6 and 1 V8 news is true...

One of the V6s will likely be a flexfuel engine,to answer a question back on page 1...I doubt there'd be a high performance V6 right out of the gates. I don't see a reason for it.

I'd guess the LS3 will be the single V8 engine for now. The stats on the 2008 Corvette sound good. Over 420ish hp and tq. The Camaro will undoubtedly be heavier so...the vette would outperform it, living up to GM's "rules".

But I'm not discounting the possibility of GM telling the truth and saying the LS2 will be in the first new Camaros. It's very likely they might just keep it around for a year or two into production and then switch to the LS3 once they make something better for the base vette.

As far as other trim levels of the V8 flavour and corresponding engines...they are surely going to make us all wait for a couple years before releasing anything spectacular.
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 03:59 AM
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again dont hold your breath for some insane high HP camaro. GM has never allowed it to out shadow the vette, and they never will. trust me.
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 08:32 AM
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The way I see it, who cares about the stock engine power just as long as it is a good base engine. I'll be happy if there is room for a supercharger and the driveline can take some power
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 09:32 AM
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What does the GT500 run in the 1/4 mile bone stock?

And 3 v8's.

When the turbo diesel camaro be available?
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Checkmate
What does the GT500 run in the 1/4 mile bone stock?

And 3 v8's.

When the turbo diesel camaro be available?
If things keep going the way they're going, pretty soon...
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 05:48 PM
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I didnt think there was a chance for a 500hp version of the Camaro at all. But if there is going to be a 500hp Challenger Im going to expect a 500hp Camaro.
But thats just how I feel.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by LT1wannabe
Quit your bitching. An LS3 is enough for a Camaro. Either take the strip down V8 model and mod the hell out of it or go buy the new Z07. If GM wanted another Corvette, they would have made one. You can't have 2 exotics in the GM lineup.
Finally someone that is making sense.

Ford only has the Mustang as a sports car in there lineup, in 2009 Chevy will have the Camaro and Corvette, so why would anyone pay GT500 prices for a Camaro? How many GT500 have you seen on the road? I haven't seen a one. I personally don't see any reason for any Camaro to be over $37k no matter what it has.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CamaroCain
Finally someone that is making sense.

Ford only has the Mustang as a sports car in there lineup, in 2009 Chevy will have the Camaro and Corvette, so why would anyone pay GT500 prices for a Camaro? How many GT500 have you seen on the road? I haven't seen a one. I personally don't see any reason for any Camaro to be over $37k no matter what it has.

I see at least a couple a day.

You might not, but I think GM does.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 02:15 PM
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Since this thread is about the production, has there been any press release about when we (the public) will be able to see what a production model is going to look like? '08 Auto Show???
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by CamaroCain
Since this thread is about the production, has there been any press release about when we (the public) will be able to see what a production model is going to look like? '08 Auto Show???

I'm guessing we might get a dribble of information next weekend at the fbody deal @ the Tech Center.

But my guess is '08 Auto show.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 06:53 PM
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Hopefully GM will unveil the production camaro with complete specs at the 2008 Detroit show.

LS3 would be rather nice as well. I also hope they put in the currently new 3.6 V6 with direct injection that makes 300hp. Would give Mustang GT drivers something to worry about
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