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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 11:39 AM
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Surprised Octane hasn't dropped this over here yet.....

Ah, another tidbit coming straight from the horse's mouth.

Bob Boniface, a head designer at GM involved with Camaro, shared a tidbit about production details at the Camaro Superfest earlier this month:

October 2008 is the month when approximately 30 Camaros will first roll off the assembly line, and in the following months they will continue to ramp up production until the January 2009 release.
Although engine sizes are a secret, tenatively there are three engines set to be in the lineup for the initial release: 2 V6s and 1 V8.
Horsepower numbers are not known.

October 2008!
And so the countdown begins!

This is OctaneZ28's post over on 5thgen.org!
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 12:13 PM
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Cool beans.
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 12:34 PM
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Thanks for the info. I can not wait this car!
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 12:58 PM
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You beat me to posting this by about 3 minutes.

It's not a whole lot of info, but at least it's SOMETHING.

The FACTS "sticky" was updated last night.
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by OctaneZ28
You beat me to posting this by about 3 minutes.

It's not a whole lot of info, but at least it's SOMETHING.

The FACTS "sticky" was updated last night.
Yeah, I noticed it was updated after I had already posted .
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 02:22 PM
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Two v6's? but but WHY?

maybe one will be a turbo V6 .... that would be a fun one
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 02:54 PM
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There will not be a V6 turbo.
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 03:00 PM
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Well it does imply that the LS3 will be the V8 and there wont be any 500+HP setups the first year.
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Keep in mind that this was not an official press release of information, just some tidbits passed along by a designer working on the project.

Methinks there will be more to come in subsequent model years.

FWIW, the 2009 model year will be a short one, as production of 2010 models (including the convertible) will begin in July 2009.
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by OctaneZ28
Keep in mind that this was not an official press release of information, just some tidbits passed along by a designer working on the project.

Methinks there will be more to come in subsequent model years.

FWIW, the 2009 model year will be a short one, as production of 2010 models (including the convertible) will begin in July 2009.
As soon as you hear about any more hp V8 models let us know, because an LS3 is alright (still not sure on weight so it could be pretty good if it's @ 3600 lbs or less) but I'd much rather see a model coming close to 500 hp to compete with the GT500. THAT will be the one that I purchase.
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 04:37 PM
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Logic dictates that there will not be any amazing motors upon the release of the Camaro. They will start with small engines because that is what the average person wants. They know they can get the hardcore people to wait for the better motors and having new options later on in the production life is a great sales picker-uper as well as it gives a reason for people to keep talking about the cars. Hype because it is always getting better.
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by titaniumSS
As soon as you hear about any more hp V8 models let us know, because an LS3 is alright (still not sure on weight so it could be pretty good if it's @ 3600 lbs or less) but I'd much rather see a model coming close to 500 hp to compete with the GT500. THAT will be the one that I purchase.
the LS3 is a badass engine and is already making some strong numbers with just a few bolt ons. Id be happy with it in my car
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 04:48 PM
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The LS3 just simply won't be enough for me when motors like the LS7 and the LS9 are being made. They may not be available when the Camaro hits the streets, but they should continue at least one high HP, larger displacement, NA motor.

Or possibly a cheaper F/I route would be fine, just as long as the motor doesn't carry a 'Blue Devil' tax on it.

Edit: What motor is the next Gen ZO6 slated to have? That would be a great motor to shoehorn into the 2010 (2nd year, 5th gen) Camaro; not too expensive like the Blue Devil, but a HP bump above what the base C6/7/Camaro V8 come equipped with to put a hurting on the GT500.
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 05:00 PM
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O come on!
I have to wait for the big dog of Camaros I want it right off the back. Dammit!
I guess now the ? is buy when it comes out or wait?
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Originally Posted by gun5l1ng3r
The LS3 just simply won't be enough for me when motors like the LS7 and the LS9 are being made. They may not be available when the Camaro hits the streets, but they should continue at least one high HP, larger displacement, NA motor.

Or possibly a cheaper F/I route would be fine, just as long as the motor doesn't carry a 'Blue Devil' tax on it.

Edit: What motor is the next Gen ZO6 slated to have? That would be a great motor to shoehorn into the 2010 (2nd year, 5th gen) Camaro; not too expensive like the Blue Devil, but a HP bump above what the base C6/7/Camaro V8 come equipped with to put a hurting on the GT500.
My thoughts exactly! I wanna go GT500 hunting soon after purchasing my new SS

kevano26 - I don't doubt the LS3 is an amazing engine, I've seen the numbers it's making stock in the vette and with a couple of bolt ons also. ALOT of potential. But you have to figure the camaro will probably be 500 lbs heavier and it takes more to get it going due to weight. I have no problem with the LS3 but if the camaro weighs more than 3600 lbs, there will be a problem for me. (I'm only 165 lbs though so my weight isn't really a factor)
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by gun5l1ng3r
The LS3 just simply won't be enough for me when motors like the LS7 and the LS9 are being made.
You do want to be able to actually afford the car, right?!? What do you think a Camaro would cost if the engine/tranny combo were $20,000 by itself?
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 07:29 PM
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Those 30 Camaros are going to sell for outrageous prices. Remember the first Cobras that sold on eBay before they even came out? Rediculous bids.
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 08:35 PM
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If they can keep the camaro under 3600...with an LS3 I would be interested. As long as the LS7 is dead for sure.

The two V6's out of the new CTS and an LS3 for launch is not shabby at all!!!

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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 11:09 PM
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I may be wrong, and it wouldn't be the first time, but I think the launch V8 will be the new
L76. Then toward late '09 or early '10 we'll see the LS3. Just a guess but I think GM will
want to get the cars out there as affordable as possible to begin with.
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Originally Posted by 91redchevy
I may be wrong, and it wouldn't be the first time, but I think the launch V8 will be the new
L76. Then toward late '09 or early '10 we'll see the LS3. Just a guess but I think GM will
want to get the cars out there as affordable as possible to begin with.
Sounds like I'll be waiting then. I'm settling for anything less than an LS3, and if it tips the scales at over 3600, thats still pushing it for me.
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