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how many people besides me think that the new maro will get the LS3?
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come out with a LS5?
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or put the new motors that are coming out in 2010?
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2009 camaro engine!?
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And I'll damn well call anyone a "dumbass", who feels certain that the Camaro is going to be a slow, fat pig.
Its possible that the new Camaro will weigh 3800lbs, and its possible that it may weight 3500-3600lbs. I don't know what GM is planning, and therefore I don't say that the new Camaro will weigh 3500lbs and be super light, and handle like a f430.
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There'll be a detuned from the corvette LS3 in there somewhere. It just makes more sense than anything else. Heck, the CTS-V is slated to get it, why not the Camaro?
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1. no thirdgen ever had a "corvette motor" in it.
2. by 87, they were all fuel injected.
now, 87 was the year the GTA was introduced, and you could get it with the 305 TPI motor (the LB9) or the 350 TPI (the L98)
and it was the first year for TPI.
oh, and that was also the first year for roller cams..
but it was in no way shape or form the "corvette motor" from that year or any other year.
2. by 87, they were all fuel injected.
now, 87 was the year the GTA was introduced, and you could get it with the 305 TPI motor (the LB9) or the 350 TPI (the L98)
and it was the first year for TPI.
oh, and that was also the first year for roller cams..
but it was in no way shape or form the "corvette motor" from that year or any other year.
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Like 90% of the people here swear the Camaro will weigh 3700lbs+, I doubt the Camaro will:
1: Be only as fast as the 4th Gens
2: Only be as fast as family sedans (Impala SS and G8 GT)
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It wont be detuned. For several years now GM has been putting the same engine in the corvette in other models at the same power rating. I think they realized doing that is just a waste of money compared to a single standardized engine.
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There have usually been small differences in the non-vette applications. Intake, exhaust, cams, tuning, changes in the heads or even the block (2bolt/4bolt) at times.
It's nit-picking, but if you want to be 100% accurate about it...
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Hydramatic, does it really make sense that the Camaro would get the exact same engine as is in the Impala and G8?
Like 90% of the people here swear the Camaro will weigh 3700lbs+, I doubt the Camaro will:
1: Be only as fast as the 4th Gens
2: Only be as fast as family sedans (Impala SS and G8 GT)
Like 90% of the people here swear the Camaro will weigh 3700lbs+, I doubt the Camaro will:
1: Be only as fast as the 4th Gens
2: Only be as fast as family sedans (Impala SS and G8 GT)
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I'll throw this out there.
I have one of those fat, ugly, slow, IRS GTO's.
Last year it ran the times in my sig. Cam only, with headers, exhaust, UD pulley and a CAI. Stock rear end with stock rear gears and stock 17" rims. Since then it has gotten some more lovin' and I expect better times this year.
I've done all the engine work on it myself. In fact, I've done all the work, period, except for the tranny. I've also helped other GTO owners with their mods. The car is incredibly easy to work on. Change plugs in about 15 minutes. Heads and cam swap in a day in the driveway, less if you have 2-3 guys that know what they are doing and have all the tools & parts on hand.
If the new Camaro, built in Australia, is built to the same standards as the GTO, I expect a high quality, weekend wrench friendly car with a ton of hot rod potential. I would expect a 3800lb car, or even heavier. There is little weight reduction that can be done on these cars, and the GTO was only in production for 3 years because it wouldn't meet 2007 safety standards. Those safety standards will make the Camaro heavier, IMO.
I won't buy a first year Camaro, but so far there are only 3 cars that I'm looking at for my next ride. 1) Corvette, 2) Camaro, or 3) G8 (hey, who knows, in 3-4 years I might need a back seat and 4 doors).
As for what engines . . . I expect 2 engine options, a V6 and a V8 and the V8 for the first year will be an LS3 and it will not be de-tuned. I hope they throw a S/C or even turbo on the car at some point.
In the meantime, keep your fingers crossed for me to get my car back from the tranny shop in time to take advantage of some of the good air days coming up at Gainesville Raceway. I'm shooting for 11.2-11.3 on motor and 10.5 on nitrous.
I have one of those fat, ugly, slow, IRS GTO's.
Last year it ran the times in my sig. Cam only, with headers, exhaust, UD pulley and a CAI. Stock rear end with stock rear gears and stock 17" rims. Since then it has gotten some more lovin' and I expect better times this year.
I've done all the engine work on it myself. In fact, I've done all the work, period, except for the tranny. I've also helped other GTO owners with their mods. The car is incredibly easy to work on. Change plugs in about 15 minutes. Heads and cam swap in a day in the driveway, less if you have 2-3 guys that know what they are doing and have all the tools & parts on hand.
If the new Camaro, built in Australia, is built to the same standards as the GTO, I expect a high quality, weekend wrench friendly car with a ton of hot rod potential. I would expect a 3800lb car, or even heavier. There is little weight reduction that can be done on these cars, and the GTO was only in production for 3 years because it wouldn't meet 2007 safety standards. Those safety standards will make the Camaro heavier, IMO.
I won't buy a first year Camaro, but so far there are only 3 cars that I'm looking at for my next ride. 1) Corvette, 2) Camaro, or 3) G8 (hey, who knows, in 3-4 years I might need a back seat and 4 doors).
As for what engines . . . I expect 2 engine options, a V6 and a V8 and the V8 for the first year will be an LS3 and it will not be de-tuned. I hope they throw a S/C or even turbo on the car at some point.
In the meantime, keep your fingers crossed for me to get my car back from the tranny shop in time to take advantage of some of the good air days coming up at Gainesville Raceway. I'm shooting for 11.2-11.3 on motor and 10.5 on nitrous.
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I'll throw this out there.
I have one of those fat, ugly, slow, IRS GTO's.
Last year it ran the times in my sig. Cam only, with headers, exhaust, UD pulley and a CAI. Stock rear end with stock rear gears and stock 17" rims. Since then it has gotten some more lovin' and I expect better times this year.
I've done all the engine work on it myself. In fact, I've done all the work, period, except for the tranny. I've also helped other GTO owners with their mods. The car is incredibly easy to work on. Change plugs in about 15 minutes. Heads and cam swap in a day in the driveway, less if you have 2-3 guys that know what they are doing and have all the tools & parts on hand.
If the new Camaro, built in Australia, is built to the same standards as the GTO, I expect a high quality, weekend wrench friendly car with a ton of hot rod potential. I would expect a 3800lb car, or even heavier. There is little weight reduction that can be done on these cars, and the GTO was only in production for 3 years because it wouldn't meet 2007 safety standards. Those safety standards will make the Camaro heavier, IMO.
I won't buy a first year Camaro, but so far there are only 3 cars that I'm looking at for my next ride. 1) Corvette, 2) Camaro, or 3) G8 (hey, who knows, in 3-4 years I might need a back seat and 4 doors).
As for what engines . . . I expect 2 engine options, a V6 and a V8 and the V8 for the first year will be an LS3 and it will not be de-tuned. I hope they throw a S/C or even turbo on the car at some point.
In the meantime, keep your fingers crossed for me to get my car back from the tranny shop in time to take advantage of some of the good air days coming up at Gainesville Raceway. I'm shooting for 11.2-11.3 on motor and 10.5 on nitrous.
I have one of those fat, ugly, slow, IRS GTO's.
Last year it ran the times in my sig. Cam only, with headers, exhaust, UD pulley and a CAI. Stock rear end with stock rear gears and stock 17" rims. Since then it has gotten some more lovin' and I expect better times this year.
I've done all the engine work on it myself. In fact, I've done all the work, period, except for the tranny. I've also helped other GTO owners with their mods. The car is incredibly easy to work on. Change plugs in about 15 minutes. Heads and cam swap in a day in the driveway, less if you have 2-3 guys that know what they are doing and have all the tools & parts on hand.
If the new Camaro, built in Australia, is built to the same standards as the GTO, I expect a high quality, weekend wrench friendly car with a ton of hot rod potential. I would expect a 3800lb car, or even heavier. There is little weight reduction that can be done on these cars, and the GTO was only in production for 3 years because it wouldn't meet 2007 safety standards. Those safety standards will make the Camaro heavier, IMO.
I won't buy a first year Camaro, but so far there are only 3 cars that I'm looking at for my next ride. 1) Corvette, 2) Camaro, or 3) G8 (hey, who knows, in 3-4 years I might need a back seat and 4 doors).
As for what engines . . . I expect 2 engine options, a V6 and a V8 and the V8 for the first year will be an LS3 and it will not be de-tuned. I hope they throw a S/C or even turbo on the car at some point.
In the meantime, keep your fingers crossed for me to get my car back from the tranny shop in time to take advantage of some of the good air days coming up at Gainesville Raceway. I'm shooting for 11.2-11.3 on motor and 10.5 on nitrous.
The smartest thing ive heard on this forum in a while. Im tired of the bitching about the weight, IRS, and other nit-pick crap. GTOs are a friendly car to work on and if the camaro is anything like it; then I believe that we will be graced by a high quality car at a decent price that will also have good performance potential.
I swear, everyone thinks they have a crystalball on the Camaro being a failure. The narrow-minded post are getting old.
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The smartest thing ive heard on this forum in a while. Im tired of the bitching about the weight, IRS, and other nit-pick crap. GTOs are a friendly car to work on and if the camaro is anything like it; then I believe that we will be graced by a high quality car at a decent price that will also have good performance potential.
I swear, everyone thinks they have a crystalball on the Camaro being a failure. The narrow-minded post are getting old.
I swear, everyone thinks they have a crystalball on the Camaro being a failure. The narrow-minded post are getting old.
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yea in the magazine i was reading about the concept it had a ls2 in it, HOWEVER it also said the whole driveline may still be altered and is in no way def, i expect a ls3 =)
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I can tell u too,the IRS is a god send...
It rides so nice,no rattles and works just fine for most street/strip guys.
Sure the hardcore guys will want a solid axle and someone will probably make the kit but IF I was going to buy a new Camaro I would want the IRS....
My GTO is the best car I have ever owned,It does everything well
U guys who are waiting on the new Camaro will love the IRS over the solid axle
Just wait and see
It rides so nice,no rattles and works just fine for most street/strip guys.
Sure the hardcore guys will want a solid axle and someone will probably make the kit but IF I was going to buy a new Camaro I would want the IRS....
My GTO is the best car I have ever owned,It does everything well
U guys who are waiting on the new Camaro will love the IRS over the solid axle
Just wait and see
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