View Poll Results: motor in 2009!?
how many people besides me think that the new maro will get the LS3?
256
71.51%
come out with a LS5?
30
8.38%
or put the new motors that are coming out in 2010?
72
20.11%
Voters: 358. You may not vote on this poll
2009 camaro engine!?
06 GTO with LS2 400hp with IRS 3800lbs
09-10 Camaro's . LS2 400hp or even LS3 430lbs with IRS 3800lbs and big wheels
I will be surprised if the camaro's weights 3500lbs
.. So what if it weighs 3800 LBS...this is a production street car not a race car...build quality and performance is what is important...if there isn't enought HP to suit you mod it ... like with all LS series engines there is another easy 100 HP left on the table that can be obtained with a few mods..everybody is so negitive on here about this and that on the new Camaro...it gonna be a good car...if you do not like it do not buy it.. 
yeah, if the new camaro wont have an LS3 for $19,000 and weighs 3800, what are you gonna do besides bitch about it? go buy a mustang?! buy an older car and modify it?
people need to stop jumping to conclusions and getting so emotional about vehicle stats that arent even in existantce yet
people need to stop jumping to conclusions and getting so emotional about vehicle stats that arent even in existantce yet
My 2000 Z28 weighed 3450 LBS when it was stock with a quarter tank of gas....you do not really think that the next generation is going to come in at 3500 LBS do you... .. So what if it weighs 3800 LBS...this is a production street car not a race car...build quality and performance is what is important...if there isn't enought HP to suit you mod it ... like with all LS series engines there is another easy 100 HP left on the table that can be obtained with a few mods..everybody is so negitive on here about this and that on the new Camaro...it gonna be a good car...if you do not like it do not buy it..
.. So what if it weighs 3800 LBS...this is a production street car not a race car...build quality and performance is what is important...if there isn't enought HP to suit you mod it ... like with all LS series engines there is another easy 100 HP left on the table that can be obtained with a few mods..everybody is so negitive on here about this and that on the new Camaro...it gonna be a good car...if you do not like it do not buy it.. I don’t like big wheels on sports cars.
Your right there will be enough hp to suit anyone who mods it
yeah, if the new camaro wont have an LS3 for $19,000 and weighs 3800, what are you gonna do besides bitch about it? go buy a mustang?! buy an older car and modify it?
people need to stop jumping to conclusions and getting so emotional about vehicle stats that arent even in existantce yet
people need to stop jumping to conclusions and getting so emotional about vehicle stats that arent even in existantce yet
IT's COOL relax
Last edited by 5301113; Apr 10, 2008 at 12:43 PM.
Why are you so
IT'S OK. That a deep breath ,count to 10
Just because i say is heavier i not saying i dont like it. I DO so relax.
I guess i have to say I like , l like but it's heavy
Peace out
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back to the motors...
these will be available from GM
3.6 a bunch of stuff in GM lineup...
5.3 currently in trucks and FWD sedan
6.0 trucks G8
6.2 caddies trucks vette
6.2 S/C Caddies and Vettes
I guess you can say the
2.0T in about 2-3 years.
currently G8 has
these options
3.6 base
6.0 GT
6.0 GTX, GTP, GTX whatever those pontiac guys call it.
(soon to have UTE and G8 coupe/GTO)
depending how the option out the cars... our if GM Get smart and makes a really cheap V8 ...doubt it with the powerful fuel effective 3.6 (it runs regular gas even in 300hp trim)
But it would be nice to pick your own engine options... even flex fuel 5.3 GM are you listening???
I gotta give them props so far... sounds promising... to bad it will not LAST !!!
Get it while its HOT !!
these will be available from GM
3.6 a bunch of stuff in GM lineup...
5.3 currently in trucks and FWD sedan
6.0 trucks G8
6.2 caddies trucks vette
6.2 S/C Caddies and Vettes
I guess you can say the
2.0T in about 2-3 years.
currently G8 has
these options
3.6 base
6.0 GT
6.0 GTX, GTP, GTX whatever those pontiac guys call it.
(soon to have UTE and G8 coupe/GTO)
depending how the option out the cars... our if GM Get smart and makes a really cheap V8 ...doubt it with the powerful fuel effective 3.6 (it runs regular gas even in 300hp trim)
But it would be nice to pick your own engine options... even flex fuel 5.3
GM are you listening???I gotta give them props so far... sounds promising... to bad it will not LAST !!!
Get it while its HOT !!
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WTF is wrong with you? Lay off the testosterone...
His comments were perfectly acceptable, and I agree with him almost 100%. YOU are the one with f#cked up opinions about ****...
GM doesn't have the ONLY dominant cars on the street buddy...Last time I checked, Terminators were taking heads and asking questions after the fact. And what about the quick imports? Evos and STi's aren't exactly pushovers...13.5 in the quarter is VERY respectable for a sedan under $30k...
Normally, I'm like, "GM, F#ck YEAH!", but this blind fanboyism is just retarded. There is nothing wrong with thinking GM is the best out there, but there are other cars out there that are fast...you might try doing some reading up on them!
For starters, do a search for "Porsche" or "Mopar"...
His comments were perfectly acceptable, and I agree with him almost 100%. YOU are the one with f#cked up opinions about ****...
GM doesn't have the ONLY dominant cars on the street buddy...Last time I checked, Terminators were taking heads and asking questions after the fact. And what about the quick imports? Evos and STi's aren't exactly pushovers...13.5 in the quarter is VERY respectable for a sedan under $30k...
Normally, I'm like, "GM, F#ck YEAH!", but this blind fanboyism is just retarded. There is nothing wrong with thinking GM is the best out there, but there are other cars out there that are fast...you might try doing some reading up on them!
For starters, do a search for "Porsche" or "Mopar"...
They would still lose to a stock LS1 in the quarter and from a roll. Every knows the terminator is fast...It's more money and newer...You get what you pay for, but with an f-body you get more than what you pay for. You can keep up with 90k cars for cheap...That's my point. Not that they are the greatest thing ever. Have a beer and relax. 
You shut your mouth, i wasn't talking to you. Anyway, were referring to cars in the same price range...It's 2008...F-bodys are cheap. STI's EVO's, porshe...Come on...Way more expensive and STI's are still slower. Sure, they run a 13.5...At 101mph They would still lose to a stock LS1 in the quarter and from a roll. Every knows the terminator is fast...It's more money and newer...You get what you pay for, but with an f-body you get more than what you pay for. You can keep up with 90k cars for cheap...That's my point. Not that they are the greatest thing ever. Have a beer and relax.
They would still lose to a stock LS1 in the quarter and from a roll. Every knows the terminator is fast...It's more money and newer...You get what you pay for, but with an f-body you get more than what you pay for. You can keep up with 90k cars for cheap...That's my point. Not that they are the greatest thing ever. Have a beer and relax. but it is sloooooow in mine...13.5 is not what I would call a fast car.. 
.. when stock my Y2K Z28 ran 12.96 @ 109mph..I did not consider that to be a fast car either .. ... but they are a good platforum to start with and pretty easy to add another 125-150 HP to make a decent quick street car. 
I'm jealous of you sea level guys. Must be nice to be able to run 12.96@109 in a stock LS1. Doesn't happen here at altitude. Stock m6 ls1s are 14 second 101mph cars and autos are high 13s @ 99 or so. I wasn't running 109mph with cam/headers/cutout/gears/tune/etc. FI is the way to go here.
Anyways, still hoping for a minimum of a 400hp LS3 and if we're lucky an LS8. Now that's a platform to start with...
Anyways, still hoping for a minimum of a 400hp LS3 and if we're lucky an LS8. Now that's a platform to start with...
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13.5 might be fast in your neighborhood but it is sloooooow in mine...13.5 is not what I would call a fast car.. .. when stock my Y2K Z28 ran 12.96 @ 109mph..I did not consider that to be a fast car either .. ... but they are a good platforum to start with and pretty easy to add another 125-150 HP to make a decent quick street car.
but it is sloooooow in mine...13.5 is not what I would call a fast car.. .. when stock my Y2K Z28 ran 12.96 @ 109mph..I did not consider that to be a fast car either .. ... but they are a good platforum to start with and pretty easy to add another 125-150 HP to make a decent quick street car.Also, it takes some time driving something SLOW AS **** to truly appreciate how fast the F-body's and Vettes really are...
And yes, 13.5 is slow as hell for almost any LS1...
I also agree that it's a fantastic platform to get good performance out of....bar that damn rear end which doesn't hold up that well...
13.5 might not be fast for a 2-door V8 RWD pony car built with one of the best engines ever developed, but it is for a Mitsubishi sedan STOCK. Hell, think of any non-luxo sedan that does thirteens or quicker. Can't think of many can you?
Also, it takes some time driving something SLOW AS **** to truly appreciate how fast the F-body's and Vettes really are...
And yes, 13.5 is slow as hell for almost any LS1...
I also agree that it's a fantastic platform to get good performance out of....bar that damn rear end which doesn't hold up that well...
Also, it takes some time driving something SLOW AS **** to truly appreciate how fast the F-body's and Vettes really are...
And yes, 13.5 is slow as hell for almost any LS1...
I also agree that it's a fantastic platform to get good performance out of....bar that damn rear end which doesn't hold up that well...
I am an old hot rodder and I realy do not think about non-luxo sedans...as a matter of fact this is probably the first time I have ever thought about one..
.. but only because you brought it up .. in my younger days I have been fortunate to have owned and driven a number of legal super stock drag cars that have ran as fast as 9.40s @ 140mph, numerous B, C, and D Gassers that ran at least 3 or 4 tenths quicker than their national index, and a T/AD that ran 6.05 @ 216 mph..so maybe my view of a fast car is a little different than your average bear.. to me a 13 second car would make a semi boring commuter car at best .. a 4th gen F body is a great place to start with a 21st century hot rod/muscle car..it does not take a much to make one interesting and fun to drive .. nuff said ... TECH Fanatic
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I am an old hot rodder and I realy do not think about non-luxo sedans...as a matter of fact this is probably the first time I have ever thought about one.... but only because you brought it up .. in my younger days I have been fortunate to have owned and driven a number of legal super stock drag cars that have ran as fast as 9.40s @ 140mph, numerous B, C, and D Gassers that ran at least 3 or 4 tenths quicker than their national index, and a T/AD that ran 6.05 @ 216 mph..so maybe my view of a fast car is a little different than your average bear.. to me a 13 second car would make a semi boring commuter car at best .. a 4th gen F body is a great place to start with a 21st century hot rod/muscle car..it does not take a much to make one interesting and fun to drive .. nuff said ...
.. but only because you brought it up .. in my younger days I have been fortunate to have owned and driven a number of legal super stock drag cars that have ran as fast as 9.40s @ 140mph, numerous B, C, and D Gassers that ran at least 3 or 4 tenths quicker than their national index, and a T/AD that ran 6.05 @ 216 mph..so maybe my view of a fast car is a little different than your average bear.. to me a 13 second car would make a semi boring commuter car at best .. a 4th gen F body is a great place to start with a 21st century hot rod/muscle car..it does not take a much to make one interesting and fun to drive .. nuff said ...That's cool. I was just saying that NORMAL people would probably think that anything in the thirteens(whether or not they new that meant anything) is pretty stout.
And for pete's sake, an Evo is NOT a boring commuter car...In fact, I think that's the first I've ever heard ANYONE say that about it! I'm not a rice fan, but I love that car!
You need to get more often if you get excited about driving a evo ...... but I guess if we all the same it would be a dull world ... I used to measure my trips a quarter mile at a time but now I do not race anymore ... its a young mans game .. when you get to be my age your reactions are gone to say the least ... now days I like a good modern all around hot rod/muscle car ... the 4th gen f body is a great platform to start with ... with a little tweeking to the engine and chassis you can drive a car the corners and handles well runs a 11 second quarter miles and still gets 25 miles per gallon fuel economy on the highway... I know because that is what my daily driver does ... I would rather have one good hot rod than a truck load of evos ... to each his own ...
... but I guess if we all the same it would be a dull world ... I used to measure my trips a quarter mile at a time but now I do not race anymore ... its a young mans game .. when you get to be my age your reactions are gone to say the least ... now days I like a good modern all around hot rod/muscle car ... the 4th gen f body is a great platform to start with ... with a little tweeking to the engine and chassis you can drive a car the corners and handles well runs a 11 second quarter miles and still gets 25 miles per gallon fuel economy on the highway... I know because that is what my daily driver does ... I would rather have one good hot rod than a truck load of evos ... to each his own ... Last edited by slt200mph; Jun 24, 2008 at 10:10 AM.