Z28 > SuperSport
#21
The world would come to a screeching end if the Z/28 got a high revving 5.3 wouldn't it? I think the original theory was that the different models are there for different purposes. Not necessarily a hierarchy.
#22
The SS guys cry top dog, the Z28 guys cry top dog.. Alot of people put SS apearance **** on thier Z's. Do you ever hear of an SS owner wanting to put a Z28 hood and spoiler on thier car? If so not many. What ever the beast will be I will probably own one. It will sit right next to my SS. You guys worry and bicker too much!!!
#23
There were only a few thousand 1st gen Z28's made for each year. They were not GM's bread and butter of the camaro line at that time. Compared to all 1st gen sales, Z28's were very low production numbers.
#24
i thought they had 327's for some reason.
Personally i think they should just continue on the same rout as the 4th gen with the 5th gen. Base v6, rs (v6), z28, then SS at the top. It makes pretty good sense to me and it would keep things simple for most camaro buyers (most of whom dont know/care about the history and heritage).
One thing i think they should change from 4th to 5th gen is i think they need to make the z28 stand out a little more from the v6 cars. To the casual eye the only difference externally between the z28 and the v6 was the badge. nobody should have to ask, "is it a z28?". I hope on the new one they make the z28 tastefully more noticeable than the v6 just like they made the old ss tastefully more noticeable than the old z28.
Personally i think they should just continue on the same rout as the 4th gen with the 5th gen. Base v6, rs (v6), z28, then SS at the top. It makes pretty good sense to me and it would keep things simple for most camaro buyers (most of whom dont know/care about the history and heritage).
One thing i think they should change from 4th to 5th gen is i think they need to make the z28 stand out a little more from the v6 cars. To the casual eye the only difference externally between the z28 and the v6 was the badge. nobody should have to ask, "is it a z28?". I hope on the new one they make the z28 tastefully more noticeable than the v6 just like they made the old ss tastefully more noticeable than the old z28.
#25
The SS guys cry top dog, the Z28 guys cry top dog.. Alot of people put SS apearance **** on thier Z's. Do you ever hear of an SS owner wanting to put a Z28 hood and spoiler on thier car? If so not many. What ever the beast will be I will probably own one. It will sit right next to my SS. You guys worry and bicker too much!!!
#26
What does that prove? The base model has ALWAYS been the bread and butter. There are always less made of the higher model. Just like the later models where the V6s have higher production models than the V8s. There will be less ZR1 C6s sold than any other vette. The Z28 was top dog of the first gen, arguing any different is simply uneducated. Just like the guys above had said, talk to old guys who were in the know and they will laugh at the thought that the SS was #1
#28
The original Z/28 option was specifically designed to run in the Trans Am races and was restricted to a 302 engine by the race. It was built for racing and could make almost 400 hp stock (GM listed it at 290 to keep insurance cheap). It was second to no SS, even the 396. You gotta remember, back then you ordered a Camaro, then you picked your option (be it a V8, the SS package, or the Z/28 package, and you could even add the RS package to any of those).
#29
Agree 100% with the first post. The 302 was the best engine...its was the racing engine. The 302, suspension, brakes, etc on the Z/28 were designed for track use. The SS was not a track car...it was a poser car that could be turned into a drag car. But, the Z/28 could do both drag and track. And, the high revving 302 was a 327 block with a 283 crank.
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#30
Do you have proof of that...?? Every thing I've ever seen regarding the Z28 302 says the 290hp rating as not correct.
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Stop reading the books and quoting facts and you'll stop being wrong The 302 was not a 290hp engine, and is the most infamous engine of the day for a reason. You're arguing something that you simply do not know about. The Z28 was just plain built to race, the SS was not
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#36
WRONG WRONG WRONG.......on the 1st gen cars you could have a base model with the Z28 option which was ONLY HD suspension, 302 engine, Disc brakes (front only), Posi, and 4 sp trans.......NO special interior NO cowl hood (it was an option) NO rear spoiler (option too). I have personally driven a 1967 Z28 without cowl hood and the base interior, it looked like a 6 cylinder car there weren't even emblems the on the first run cars. The Z28 was originally to go TransAm racing so it required special equipment like the 302. Z28 are not second dog to the SS and the SS isn't second dog to the Z28. The SS and Z28 in the hierarchy of models in the 1st and early years of 2nd gens were on equal footing. If you wanted to go fast around a road course or wanted to go TransAm racing you bought the Z28, if you wanted a Big Block you had to get the SS (execpt for the rare COPOs). You guys do know what Z28 stands for right???? it is the option code for the original package like the SS's option code for the SS in a Chevelle was Z16. If you had the desire you could in 67 - 69 go down to Chevy dealer get a SS350 Camaro with the HD suspension (F41), Posi, select a 4 sp trans, Disc brakes (you could even get J8 4 wheel discs) and with careful selection of rear gears, then run it down to the local road course and teach a Z the fast way around the track (torque is a wonderful thing). So Scoggins put your elitism away.
#37
Agree 100% with the first post. The 302 was the best engine...its was the racing engine. The 302, suspension, brakes, etc on the Z/28 were designed for track use. The SS was not a track car...it was a poser car that could be turned into a drag car. But, the Z/28 could do both drag and track. And, the high revving 302 was a 327 block with a 283 crank.
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WRONG WRONG WRONG.......on the 1st gen cars you could have a base model with the Z28 option which was ONLY HD suspension, 302 engine, Disc brakes (front only), Posi, and 4 sp trans.......NO special interior NO cowl hood (it was an option) NO rear spoiler (option too). I have personally driven a 1967 Z28 without cowl hood and the base interior, it looked like a 6 cylinder car there weren't even emblems the on the first run cars. The Z28 was originally to go TransAm racing so it required special equipment like the 302. Z28 are not second dog to the SS and the SS isn't second dog to the Z28. The SS and Z28 in the hierarchy of models in the 1st and early years of 2nd gens were on equal footing. If you wanted to go fast around a road course or wanted to go TransAm racing you bought the Z28, if you wanted a Big Block you had to get the SS (execpt for the rare COPOs). You guys do know what Z28 stands for right???? it is the option code for the original package like the SS's option code for the SS in a Chevelle was Z16. If you had the desire you could in 67 - 69 go down to Chevy dealer get a SS350 Camaro with the HD suspension (F41), Posi, select a 4 sp trans, Disc brakes (you could even get J8 4 wheel discs) and with careful selection of rear gears, then run it down to the local road course and teach a Z the fast way around the track (torque is a wonderful thing). So Scoggins put your elitism away.
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