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Old 01-08-2009, 10:40 PM
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Okay, I have a question. What is a torque arm and what is it's purpose? Where is it located? How hard are they to replace? I have been told it will help with traction out of the hole if I replace it with a bmr torque arm. I know this makes me look stupid, but I am hopin someone can help me out.
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it is the big metal bar that runs from the tail shaft of the transmition, to the rearend, along side the driveshaft. it controls axle wrap and movement and helps you plant the tires a lot better. theres a few different designs to look into before you order one though.
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Originally Posted by dutinsss
it is the big metal bar that runs from the tail shaft of the transmition, to the rearend, along side the driveshaft. it controls axle wrap and movement and helps you plant the tires a lot better. theres a few different designs to look into before you order one though.
+1 you can get an adjustable one to really help you tweak your setup.
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There is a pic of an adjustable BMR torque arm.
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Okay, how difficult are they to install? And I understand an adjustable one, but what is the point when I won't even begin to pretend to know how to adjust it?
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Not very hard to install at all. There is to long bolts that go through the housing of the differential I want to say they are 3/4 nuts and bolts, but don't quote me on it. Then along the side of the transmission there is a on 10 or 13 mm bolt that you remove. Then you can remove the strap that has a rubber insulator in it, and then the torque arm can be removed. Adjusting is a bit of a trick it really depends on the car though.
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sorry OP not to but would this be something to get before SFC or would SFC be a better first suspension mod
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sorry OP not to but would this be something to get before SFC or would SFC be a better first suspension mod
+1

subframe connectors are something most people want to do right away to keep their chassis from flexing and putting dimples the quarter panels for one thing
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There are better traction mods than a TA. Do adjustable lower control arms first and shocks will also make a diff if yours are worn out. A TA won't make a whole lot of diff. Most people who change them are high hp guys who just don't want the stress on the tranny tailshaft or just don't like the flimsy stamped steel piece. I am just gonna get a kit to change my stocker mounting point off the tailshaft and keep it till it breaks

Search the suspension section and you will learn all you need to know.
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Trust me man, it's not a stupid question. The only way to learn something new is through research and asking questions, which is why LS1tech was created in the first place.

But yeah, a torque arm is not that hard to replace. If you need help, just ask.
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Originally Posted by tj1986c
Trust me man, it's not a stupid question. The only way to learn something new is through research and asking questions, which is why LS1tech was created in the first place.

But yeah, a torque arm is not that hard to replace. If you need help, just ask.

I totally agree with the above. The only stupid question is the 1 not asked.
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A torque arm was the best traction mod I've ever done to my car, so I'll have to disagree with some of the prior posters. On the subject of adjustment, there will be instructions with the torque arm when you buy it. If you get it used, and are still confused about it, send BMR or UMI a private message and they'll be more than happy to help you out. It can be kinda tricky unless you have someone really break it down for you.
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Thanx guys, I am looking at doing this after my stall gets in next month. It's gonna have drs on it but I figure every little bit helps.
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Originally Posted by dutinsss
it is the big metal bar that runs from the tail shaft of the transmition, to the rearend, along side the driveshaft. it controls axle wrap and movement and helps you plant the tires a lot better. theres a few different designs to look into before you order one though.
its my understanding that the torque arm is the only thing keeping the axle from going completely straight up in the air under hard accleration correct? with no torque arm the axle would flip upward and snap the u joints and/or driveshaft ends right? a four link or triangulated four link has a set of upper control arms on the top that make a torque arm unneccesary.
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When you see a post of a torn and twisted drive shaft, you can bet the torque arm was at the heart of the failure.

Newton's 3rd law: For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

So looking from the drivers side of the car the rear wheels spin counter clockwise. Newton's law shows that the whole rear drivetrain will then have an equal clockwise rotation if not held in place. Thus the main job of the torque arm to resist this opposite rotation.
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I recently installed a better torque arm mainly because it was a good buy but I can feel the difference. The car takes off noticeably better. I realized that there was some slop/twist/something that is not there any more.
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Originally Posted by wht01ws6ta
+1

subframe connectors are something most people want to do right away to keep their chassis from flexing and putting dimples the quarter panels for one thing
+65,000 I have dimples in the quarters!
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I'm starting to get the dimples in my quarters as well. I am thinkin I will be doing some suspension mods as soon as I get my rims and stall next month. What do you guys think I should start with?
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Originally Posted by Swift_01_z-28
I'm starting to get the dimples in my quarters as well. I am thinkin I will be doing some suspension mods as soon as I get my rims and stall next month. What do you guys think I should start with?
What size rear wheels and tires are you going to be running?
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I will be running 275/40/17 nitto 555 drs on the back.




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