LT1 vs. LS1...looking for general information
02-11-2009, 05:05 PM
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DIFFERENCES frm GEN1/2 ENGINES
block length
block width
block deck heighth
firing order
cylinder bank offset
block design/main cap mounting
no distributor drive
rotation sensors
connecting rod
piston pin diameter
no. 3 (main) bearing crank thrust bearing location
replicated cylinder head ports
gerotor (driven off crank) oil pump
crank flange location
thermostat location-intake side of waterpump
intake inlet temp control-no coolant or hot oil touches intake
intake construction
block length
block width
block deck heighth
firing order
cylinder bank offset
block design/main cap mounting
no distributor drive
rotation sensors
connecting rod
piston pin diameter
no. 3 (main) bearing crank thrust bearing location
replicated cylinder head ports
gerotor (driven off crank) oil pump
crank flange location
thermostat location-intake side of waterpump
intake inlet temp control-no coolant or hot oil touches intake
intake construction
Don't get me wrong- they can both make power its just that the lt1 needs more **** to do it.
02-11-2009, 07:02 PM
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Is that seriously for gen 1/2 engines. Wow I did not think it was that much. I thought they had the exact same bottom end. The only similarity to the gen 1-2/3 is the the bore spacing and the # of cylinders.
Don't get me wrong- they can both make power its just that the lt1 needs more **** to do it.
Don't get me wrong- they can both make power its just that the lt1 needs more **** to do it.
02-11-2009, 08:02 PM
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One issue ive had with the LS1 is the wonderfull piston slap. Ive had 2 ls1 motors in my car. Both had/have piston slap. Still reliable just sounds like **** before they get to normal operating temp. Once warmed up you dont hear it anymore. Makes it a real issue trying to sell a car that sounds like its knocking when its warming up.
02-11-2009, 08:08 PM
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well...lol....can't stop laughing. this is great....here's the story:
Me: hey hows it going
Him: oh not bad
Me: get any water in your camaro
Him: confused look....um no why
Me: oh i seen you had t-tops on your lt1 and it was raining all day yesterday
Him: no i've never had them leak
Me: weird...(short pause)....i guess you don't have enough power to twist the chassis...(said this in an entirely joking way in front of a few guys)
Him: oh another one of your LS1 JOKES!!! you know what, they are entirely the same motor with just different intakes!!!
Me: oh really...?
I just had to walk away from that one....
Me: hey hows it going
Him: oh not bad
Me: get any water in your camaro
Him: confused look....um no why
Me: oh i seen you had t-tops on your lt1 and it was raining all day yesterday
Him: no i've never had them leak
Me: weird...(short pause)....i guess you don't have enough power to twist the chassis...(said this in an entirely joking way in front of a few guys)
Him: oh another one of your LS1 JOKES!!! you know what, they are entirely the same motor with just different intakes!!!
Me: oh really...?
I just had to walk away from that one....
02-11-2009, 09:16 PM
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02-11-2009, 09:36 PM
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No matter what go LSx, Motors are much more trouble than they are worth with the optispark reliabillity issues. Not to mention LS' motors react to performance parts better and are easier to work on and trouble shoot in my experience.
02-12-2009, 12:17 AM
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One issue ive had with the LS1 is the wonderfull piston slap. Ive had 2 ls1 motors in my car. Both had/have piston slap. Still reliable just sounds like **** before they get to normal operating temp. Once warmed up you dont hear it anymore. Makes it a real issue trying to sell a car that sounds like its knocking when its warming up.
02-12-2009, 12:23 PM
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02-12-2009, 04:41 PM
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if u build a ls1..and build a lt1.. a lt1 would last a hell of alot longer most of ur ls1s spin rod bearings main bearings because of there poor lubrication systems i have them both..... the only reason ls1s out run the lt1s is one reason the cylinder heads.... but they are totally different one is just a better setup..
02-12-2009, 11:12 PM
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Haha, I can't fault you on that one... You will like it a lot more than you think though I promise you that.
02-13-2009, 03:50 AM
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The biggest difference btw LT1's and LS1's are most LSx owners think you're an idiot for even thinking of driving an LT1, that they are slow and COMPLETE junk! LMAO
Nothing could be further from the truth.
The LS1 is a great engine, and so is the LT1.
IMO the place where the LS1 shines is a bolt on car, yes it will be faster than an LT car.
However, when you do Heads, Cam IN A STREET CAR, that difference almost disappears.
If you're looking to run 8's and have a lot of cash, definitely go LS.
But if youre looking for a 11-12 second street car, or even 10's. Not as hard to get an LT1 there as most think, and definitely cheaper than an LS1 car, especially when you consider the initial purchase price of the vehicle.
Dont jump me for this guys, I have mad respect and love for BOTH engines.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
The LS1 is a great engine, and so is the LT1.
IMO the place where the LS1 shines is a bolt on car, yes it will be faster than an LT car.
However, when you do Heads, Cam IN A STREET CAR, that difference almost disappears.
If you're looking to run 8's and have a lot of cash, definitely go LS.
But if youre looking for a 11-12 second street car, or even 10's. Not as hard to get an LT1 there as most think, and definitely cheaper than an LS1 car, especially when you consider the initial purchase price of the vehicle.
Dont jump me for this guys, I have mad respect and love for BOTH engines.
02-13-2009, 08:39 AM
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The biggest difference btw LT1's and LS1's are most LSx owners think you're an idiot for even thinking of driving an LT1, that they are slow and COMPLETE junk! LMAO
Nothing could be further from the truth.
The LS1 is a great engine, and so is the LT1.
IMO the place where the LS1 shines is a bolt on car, yes it will be faster than an LT car.
However, when you do Heads, Cam IN A STREET CAR, that difference almost disappears.
If you're looking to run 8's and have a lot of cash, definitely go LS.
But if youre looking for a 11-12 second street car, or even 10's. Not as hard to get an LT1 there as most think, and definitely cheaper than an LS1 car, especially when you consider the initial purchase price of the vehicle.
Dont jump me for this guys, I have mad respect and love for BOTH engines.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
The LS1 is a great engine, and so is the LT1.
IMO the place where the LS1 shines is a bolt on car, yes it will be faster than an LT car.
However, when you do Heads, Cam IN A STREET CAR, that difference almost disappears.
If you're looking to run 8's and have a lot of cash, definitely go LS.
But if youre looking for a 11-12 second street car, or even 10's. Not as hard to get an LT1 there as most think, and definitely cheaper than an LS1 car, especially when you consider the initial purchase price of the vehicle.
Dont jump me for this guys, I have mad respect and love for BOTH engines.
Last edited by kinglt-1; 02-13-2009 at 08:48 AM.
02-14-2009, 10:17 AM
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I used owned a 95 TA, with LT4 and cam, and was a 6 speed. I now have a 98TA with simple upgrades, and is an auto. They are nothing like each other. My Brother is on this site too. He has a LT1. His car is super clean, almost like new. But I love my LS!
Neither one gave me problems. With the LT, I had allot of alternator issues. With the LS, I am having electrical issues.
Neither one gave me problems. With the LT, I had allot of alternator issues. With the LS, I am having electrical issues.