Your 98-02 Firebird MPG?
 

What do you get, city / highway.. And, do you have the v6 or v8? RAM-AIR?? Manual or Auto?

I am trying to decide which 'bird to save up for.
Thanks!

Save up for a m6 t/a. Ram air isn't gonna do too much for mpg (or anything else for that matter), and will cost you alot more. Typical bolt on cars get around 30 on highway and 23ish in the city I believe.

Best I've ever gotten in the city was 22 and that was keeping shifts at approx 2K rpm and using 5th gear all the time. Highway 6th gear and set the cruise at 70 and you'll be 30+. Car in Sig.

My a4 gets abt 27-28 before the headers doing abt 75 on the hwy. Hopefullly I'll be able to squeeze 30 after a tune with the lt's

Could you gents explain what the M6 and A4 are?

Thanks.

M6= manual 6 speed
A4= automatic 4 speed

M6 = bmw's v10 beast
A4 = Audi's turbocharged direct injection ricer's dream machine

My 94 3.4 v-6 a4 gets 27 hwy 20 in town. And it has 252,000 miles on it.


Wifes 98 Z LS1 A4 gets about the same on the hwy. It's totally stock, unmodded.

Thanks, Brandon.. Yes, I intended to get a manual. ;)

All being equal M6 costs more upfront so there goes your gas money... Also if you start to mod the A4 will be faster and more consistent than a M6 car. Oh...and if you hang around this site much you WILL mod:D Also bone stock M6 cars routinely break 10 bolt rearends so there is a lot to consider....

Bone stock I got about 25/20. Now H/C/I + boltons I get 23/don't wanna know because of the stall:D

99 Trans am V8 M6 with 4:10 gears, intake and exhaust.
I got 26mpg+ doing around 80mph plus a couple WOT runs and stop and go traffic. I need a tune and cruise control, then I am sure 28-30 is reachable. I get about 18 city if I don't get on it too much. My car smokes and smells a little so there is alot of room for improvement, plus I suck at shifting.

My 95 V6 A4 camaro got about 12-14 city and like 21 or something highway. So yeah.........

The 80 T/A got about 6mpg city.

i got 32 going 75 on a 100 mile trip. bolt on car with 2.73 gears longtubes ory catback and tune

how exactly are some of you calculating these measurements

*bump*

Any more? :D

Also need to take gears into consideration. With a manual you'll only have one stock choice. The A4 guys had two. I have 2.73's and always get 22 mixed with my best at 30-31 mpg 98% highway.

Also there are 900000 mpg threads on the site. Hate to beat the dead horse...

rofl i about died....

fill the tank up until you can absolutely fill it no more....then drive normal, until you need a fill up.... completely fill it until it cannot be filled anymore "only way to be consistent"

Record the number of miles you drove, drive it by the number of gallons it took to fill up the second time.....there you have it MPG...

BlackonBlackTA

Show me!

I get about 21 city w/ a 2002 SS a4 and forget about the 2010 SS i don't even what to tell you what that get's for MPG.

Here's a much more relevant question..... Why are you asking about MPG when you're looking at performance cars? If you want MPG go buy an Accord or VW. If you want performance buy a Camaro or Corvette. It's that simple, these cars go fast, the other boring cars I mentioned are to get you from point A to B sipping fuel.

If you're asking this to help you determine if you can afford one or not my advice would be if your budget is that tight, you might want to save for a little longer.

I can't believe on a performance car website people talk about MPG, :eek2: What's next a comparison between how many cup holders a Camaro has vs. another car? :D

Show you what?

More MPG threads? https://ls1tech.com/forums/search.php?searchid=9406304

I want you to show me you aren't a troll.

Black, your link says:

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Those are couple of threads about MPGs...

I can't believe I keep feeding the troll. :(

I have an A4 with 4000k stall and over 800hp and got 17 hwy / 12 city

Just completed a 1,300 mile round trip to FL driving up to 80 mph on the interstate and then being stuck in traffic at my destination point. Also used a/c a bit of the time, so a well mixed example of driving my '01 T/A with A4 and 3.23 rear. My mpg for this trip was 22.75 to be precise and only premium 93 octane was used. I imagine I would have done better if I kept the speed at 70 but I don't own the car for gas mileage. I'd still own it if I got just 15 mpg.

I have seen 32mpg in my WS6, average highway is 28 though. Stock 3.42 gears with a M6 driving 62-65mph in 6th which I found to be the sweat spot for mpg. That is where 6th gear carries the least load v/s throttle to get the best mileage. As soon as you crack above 1500rpm is where it will start to decline. This applies for my 99 and 01 WS6.

Although, I made it from Newark, DE to Baltimore, MD (60 miles give or take) with my 99 TA. Which has a 408, mild head/cam, full bolt ons, Strange S60 rear with 4.10 gears etc... and took less than an 1/8th tank (2-3 gallons) which is fricking outstanding while playing a little on the way too. Couldn't believe it. Gas mileage in these cars isn't as bad as you might think.

I calculate by a spread sheet that has every single gas purchase and miles driven till that purchase from the last. From brand new untill this week 45k miles, 21.9 mpg average. That is over eight years of record keeping and every kind of spirited driving you can imagine.

Of course it is a Camaro though.

oh really.... and you run 10's? LOL might want to re-dyno that car. I'd bet money its not making 800.

edit.... just looked at your sale thread, I'd bet my left testicle you're not making over 650 on juice.

but you got to admit these cars are as perfect of a balance as you can get my 01 ss went 12.98 at 110 lid and catback and got 20mpg with 3 passes at the track and mostly backroad drivin thats why i bought mine fun car to drive everyday and mpg

Its always nice to find a car that has great performance but also dosent kill you in gas.

I bought my 99 Ta A4 with 66k and now it has around 79k. I do 85% city driving and i average around 16 MPG city but the highway is around 23. All that has been done to it is a magnaflow and a K&n intake, maybe its time for a tune?

i dont believe anyone that claims they get 30 mpg. i've asked people to prove it but never any takers. i have an A4 and i get 20.5 on average. the best i've gotten was 25mpg, all freeway, cool day 55-60 degrees. i road in my car club pres 2002 35th anniversary 6spd and we got 24.5 hwy on the hot rod power tour. people that claim over 27 just cant do math. again my challenge. fill her up. post odometer milage. drive around. then refill at the same pump and POST # gallons on receipt plus odometer reading so WE can do the math. again i bet NO TAKERS! ps my 4 popper only gets 30 mpg.

02 camaro a4 turbo. 2.6 mpg, but i do have a heavy foot

My T/A has 5 cupholders, who can beat that,,as for mileage, when my checkgauges light comes on i have gone avg. 245 miles, thats having some fun with it.

I've done it, but you have already made up your mind to believe that anyone who has gotten over 27mpg is somehow retarded and can't do simple math.

I can't recreate the conditions or even the exact performance of my car, but I took a 98% highway trip of exactly 100 miles. I set the trip odometer and it read exactly 100.0 when I refilled. At both pumps, both the fill up before I left, and the top-off, I let the pump fill til it shut itself off. I don't remember down the the hundreds and thousandths what the gallons were, but it was 3.2xx. However you want to do the math, I got over 30 mpg. Even if the pump ran an extra tenth of a gallon more the next pump.

I understand there are inconsistencies between where pumps decide to shut off at, but it could even vary at the same damn pump between fill ups. There are too many variables to get your panties in wad about people saying they got 30mpg. If the outside air temp/inside temperatures of your gas tank are not exactly the same as when you filled it up the first time, it will throw off how much fuel you pump the second time. Take it with a grain of salt.

For the record, my trip happened when it was about 60 degrees outside. My windows were up, I didn't use a/c or even the fan. Tires were at 32 psi. I hit every stoplight I came to green. There is no possible way to recreate what I did. I have over 20,000 more miles on every part of my car than what I had that day. The only mod I had at the time was SLPs Cold Air Flow Pac on a completely unmolested 2.73 geared auto.

humor me, right now its cool across the country, fill her up! post your odometer milage. drive it and put 300 miles on the tank. then fill her up at the same pump / same station. POST your gallons to fill and odometer reading. I DARE YOU! you wont do it, i know people like you. cheers, have a good life. ps 20 mpg x 15 gallons equals 300 miles since our tanks hold that much.

Hey! ass clown!
you ever think that maybe he has more then one car?????

I know the car he is talkin about, and yes it does make 800+. And has been 9's....

hey, ass clown, is it your car? No.

There are very few legitimate 700+ hp cars out there. There are several on this board, but I highly doubt that he does and gets those MPG figures. and if it makes 800 on juice, that shouldn't be stated in a mgp thread... when he's driving normally he won't have 800, so no reason to claim such in a mpg thread.

if his car is a FI car making that hp, my apologies, but I seriously doubt it.

You do realize you don't have to drive 300 miles to get your MPG, right?

If I go out and drive 30 miles and go back and put 1 gallon of gas in, figures exactly the same as driving 300 miles and going back and putting 10 gallons of gas in.

And like I already stated... since the time that I did that, I have put 20,000 miles on my car. If you don't think that 20,000 miles makes a difference to how a car performs, you are retarded.

I DARE YOU TO PROVE that something that I witnessed did not happen. But you won't do it, because you can't. I know people like you, but they usually end up at the state hospital. Cheers, have a good life. PS our tanks hold 16.8 gal....:eyes: unless you have a 98, then you only get 15.5ish, but neither of which is your said 15. Peace out, girl scout.

Well start aplogizing...it is FI...

the only way you or anybody else is getting 30 mpg is to start at the top of pikes peak and coast down. i guess you failed math. cheers and happy thanks giving! please any board monitor chime in with facts.

you could also have a completely empty gas tank, pour in 1 gallon and drive until you run out, otherwise you are NOT making an accurate reading dipstick! how old are you punk? post you math grades if you graduated h.s. the gloves are off, lets go!

That is probably the most scientific idea yet! :thinker:

So why are you crying about 'go fill up your tank and drive 300 miles and fill it back up and divide'? At best, the way we determine our mpg is an educated guess with a lot of uncontrollable variables (at least for every day life). I am not going to drain my gas tank, measure out 3.78541178 liters of gasoline (that is what a gallon is equivalent to in metric, math boy ;))in a graduated cylinder, and strap every kind of device known to man to record distance traveled.

I can, however, fill up my gas tank, push the trip odometer, drive some sort of distance, fill up my gas tank, take my odometer reading and divide it by the number of gallons that the pump said it pumped. That is the generally accepted way of figuring an avg. mpg. :wave-fing

A mod is not going to come in here and say that I am lying. There are a couple of other people who have posted on this board that have managed 30mpg in their bird. It is not an every day occasion, but it can, and has happened. Please stop sweating the small things, I don't know what you are trying to prove?

You want me to post my math grades?? Please, what are you? Twelve? Go back to watching your Barney tapes.

** I see you must just sit around and wait for MPG threads to pop up so that you can go in and attack anyone who has gotten a really good MPG.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/general-l...s1-f-body.html

30 mpg is the not the average for these cars. It was achieved under the most ideal of driving conditions, which most of the time can not be replicated. (Even the quality of the gasoline from shipment to shipment.) Take information as the grain of salt that it is. I think that there is more evidence supporting that 30mpg is plausible, than there is saying that it is impossible, or that whoever has done it must somehow be stupid at math.

Instead of telling me that I can't do math, explain to me how it is not feasible. I think everyone would get a chuckle out of whatever you will have to make up to support your claim. You lost any kind of credibility with me, when you didn't even know the size of the gas tank.

Oh, and cheers.

287/tank highway driving. Mods in sig.

Apologies accepted
 

Apologies accepted. The car I speak of is not the one I am selling. The one I'm talking about is a 800+ hp, 2000 TA with a D-1SC, A4,4000 stall, 3.73 gears, this was with the a/c on and cruise control at 70 when I could. I think I could have gotten better if I would have been in lighter traffic. Some of this was in heavy traffic going thru Dallas. I had to hit breaks and sometimes traffic came to a stop. If I could have left cruise on 70 whole time I should have gotten better than my 17mpg. In the city I get 12 mpg

Thanks for watching my back BlackTA96.

who cares about mpg, that is not the point of owning a muscle car. not for me at least

I just got 29.5 MPG on a 115 mile run averaging 70 MPH with the cruise control running things most of the way.

Sorry Dano, Blackonblack is right... There are SEVERAL 6 speed cars that have gotten over 30 on just highway trips. When I first got my car I filled it up, drove it 355 miles home, then filled up when I got back and it took 11.2 gallons to fill up. That was ALL highway with stock gears running 65 the whole way. No WOT. at 65 in a m6 with stock gears the engine is barely turning.

oh, and incase your math isn't up to par... 355/11.2=31.696428

yes i knew different years came with different size gas tanks thats why i implied anyone could get 20 mpg hwy x 15 gallons = 300 miles. you really believe driving 30 miles then refilling is accurate? please pass what your smoking (puff, puff, pass dude!). again, ANYONE PROVE IT! if its so simple then just try the simple experiment i ask. but you wont because you CANT!

Best I've gotten was 25 mpg highway miles with an A4. My last 4th gen. LS1 was a 6spd. and it got slightly better mpg than the A4. The 6spd. will usually get better mpg mostly because you can modulate your shift points unlike the automatic.

BTW: Why does most threads here quickly turn into pissing matches???

We're all here to learn about our cars and gather good info. There's always some anomaly to every situation or thing so under certain conditions anything is possible but there is no reason to keep slamming a member for it.

Unfortunately it's quite uncommon to find people with any common sense these days!!!

Yeah , thats right Ass Clonze

if you'd like to know why i have such an issue with people making 30 mpg claims its because when the newbie hops on this board checking things out and thinks wow, my car must be a POS because it doesnt get 30 mpg. thats why i hammer blowhards making wild claims. yes this is probably the 6 thread i've challenged these jokers. he then called me a girl scout and the gloves came off. when will someone stand with me and call BS? IM DONE POSTING ON THIS THREAD. L8TR!

Dano, as I has said in every post... Getting 30 is not the normal and is achieved under the most ideal conditions. And quit crying, please.

210 mile trip cuising at 75 no fun with the gas i got 27.4 mpg, last week after headers i did the same trip i averaged about 82mph with about 4 spirited runs up to 100 and got 25. car is an a4 2.73's and full bolt ons

Did you neglect to read my post simply because it proves you wrong? No one here can change your mind, you've made it up, and no matter how many people have done it you're not going to believe them.

You sir, are the definition of ignorance.

exactly. It can only be done when driving under optimal conditions... eg: No WOT, keeping the rpms low, and being in a 6 speed (since you are turning about 1200-1400 rpms at 60... I don't remember the exact number since I switched to 4:10s, but it would lug the engine below 50 when in 6th)


Guys with A4's have such a hard time believing a 6 speed can pull off that kind of mpg's amuse me.