Originally Posted by fasteddie94

Wait WTF! Why am I being the one that's getting jumped on?

bww- I never really disagreed with anything you said other than yes heat does effect the car a good bit. I never said it was directly related to heatsoak of the intake just your point that we'd lose power going from spring to summer air. We do. My second paragraph was just an idea to put the debate to rest. I also pointed out to the other guy that a supercharged cobras "heatsoak" issuse have nothing to do with that of a LS1

VTEC- Yup when this noob used to go rounds in the LT1 we would have to come right back to the staging lanes and have about 15mins between runs. It did effect me. If it was heatsoak or not the car would drop off. I do recall saying that's what I always figured it was but never said "beyond a shadow of a doubt my car heatsoaked and cost me time."

Bust my ***** if you want but you really have to be in dire need of something to do. I was trying to offer a solution. I guess I could go with the crowd and just post "buy a fast" without any real opinion or insight as to why. That would benefit everyone so much more I suppose.

Originally Posted by BOONEY7750

The guy just ask for intake help not another heat soak war. Any of the intake will work on his mild LS1. Everyone wants to bitch about heat soak, how about the low price and extra meat on the BBK and PP for threading for his 125 shot. If he was that worried about performance that heat soak was an issue he would have no interrior and skinnies! Go with the BBK if you want bang for the buck. If you got a hard on for FAST go with a 102. Everyone else stop making a non-issue in this case out to be a huge deal.

Originally Posted by bww3588

i never said it wouldnt lose power going from spring to summer air, i simply stated we would lose GOBS of power. if the 1-2 degree increase because of "heat soak" of the intake ruins as much power as everyone on here acts like it does, our cars would make 150 hp less in the summer than spring.

every proponet of the heat soak issue acts like just because the intake is made of aluminum that you lose so much power its not worth it.

i would be suprised if you ran the intake at ambient temp, then went and heated it up to 150+*, all other things being equal (air temp, coolant temp, oil temp, engine bay temp etc...) you might see a 2-3 hp decrease at most.

other people are acting like you will lose 30 hp or something stupid like that.

Originally Posted by bww3588

i never said it wouldnt lose power going from spring to summer air, i simply stated we would lose GOBS of power. if the 1-2 degree increase because of "heat soak" of the intake ruins as much power as everyone on here acts like it does, our cars would make 150 hp less in the summer than spring.

every proponet of the heat soak issue acts like just because the intake is made of aluminum that you lose so much power its not worth it.

i would be suprised if you ran the intake at ambient temp, then went and heated it up to 150+*, all other things being equal (air temp, coolant temp, oil temp, engine bay temp etc...) you might see a 2-3 hp decrease at most.

other people are acting like you will lose 30 hp or something stupid like that.

Originally Posted by 09camaro383

do some research you don't need a lot to change temperature of air!!! you know the reason for the coolant running through the throttle body? is to heat up the air for fast start up in extremely cold conditions only problem is ounce the engine reaches operating temperature the coolant keeps pumping through up to 225 degrees warming the air to reduce horsepower proven fact!! now imagine a aluminum intake ruining almost at the same temp of the engine

Originally Posted by 09camaro383

dude you are the one that mentioned the spring and summer s**t and now mentioning losing 30 hp the only thing i said about numbers is that the aluminum intake will run about 35+ hotter than the plastic intake! so get your s**t together!!

Originally Posted by fasteddie94

Fair enough, I suppose I took your earlier post out of context.

Originally Posted by 09camaro383

you know the reason for the coolant running through the throttle body? is to heat up the air for fast start up in extremely cold conditions

Originally Posted by RPM WS6

This thread is heading towards the land of the worthless. I see little to no good coming from it's future.

I hate to fan the flames, but this is not correct:



That throttle body coolant passage has NOTHING to do with assisting in engine start-ups. The coolant isn't going to be hot (or even warm) until after the engine has been running. The purpose of that system is to keep the throttle body from icing during driving in super cold temps....not start-up.

Originally Posted by Paint_It_Black

The heads are aluminum. They are a lot hotter than the intake, coolant runs through them and not the intake. No one is complaining about heat soak from heads? The intake doesn't even touch the heads, it touches an 1/8th inch thick graphite gasket in the case of the Typhoon. The only heat it's subject to is ambient under hood temperature. In a moving car the difference is negligible. You would be able to touch both by hand after a summer drive. I could also ice an aluminum intake at the track. I feel the bigger difference between the two though is the extra 15lbs over the front of the car.

Originally Posted by bww3588

nuh uh!!! it robs 10000 hp because its aluminum!!!!

Originally Posted by RPM WS6

Some good points here.



Maybe we can get someone to make a nice iron intake for the LS1. Or possibily even forged steel, no amout of N2O should damage that.

Originally Posted by RPM WS6

This thread is heading towards the land of the worthless. I see little to no good coming from it's future.

I hate to fan the flames, but this is not correct:



That throttle body coolant passage has NOTHING to do with assisting in engine start-ups. The coolant isn't going to be hot (or even warm) until after the engine has been running. The purpose of that system is to keep the throttle body from icing during driving in super cold temps....not start-up.

Originally Posted by bww3588

you joke, but i seriously was going to have someone make a mold for an iron intake for LS motors, so i could start running them in my stock cars at the dirt track.

Originally Posted by 09camaro383

really!! i will buy you one!! i will throw away my fast plastic intake because probably it will blow up if i hit the throttle hard!!

Originally Posted by bww3588

you joke, but i seriously was going to have someone make a mold for an iron intake for LS motors, so i could start running them in my stock cars at the dirt track.

Originally Posted by RPM WS6

Wow. I'll openly admit that I don't know anything about dirt track racing, but I'm surprised they would require a type of intake that was not stock on a given engine.

That's strange, but interesting.

Originally Posted by 09camaro383

come to az temp is 102 tomorrow on the 109 i will imagine the temp on that aluminum intake compared to the plastic! remember hot air changes everything that's why we have a cold air intake everything works together!! here is a question for you! like you said 2 equally flowing/designed intakes, if there was a way to freeze the aluminum intake example spray it with nos like the turbo charge guys spray there intercooler will the freezing aluminum intake dyno more then the plastic intake in az? i think it will!