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Old 09-15-2010, 06:48 PM
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hey guys, just wanted to tell some people my set up on my firehawk..

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saved some big money and decided to spend it on myself for once..


02 firehawk
390 motive gear

d & d performance chevy/viper t56 transmission

ls6 clutch and aluminum flywheel.

pro 5.0 shifter

lsx fast 102 mm throttle body

slp mass air flow..

LS1 Comp Cams LSR Cathedral Port Cam (243/251 114LSA) 5.7L-6.2L
(Int. 243 Ext. 251 Lift Int. .624 Exh. .624 LSA 114°)

Patriot "Gold" Dual Valve Spring Kit

hooker long tubes 1 3/4 no cats

borla no cats connected to y pipe

slp diablo sport tuner.

nitto 555r back tire.

gunna save and get 102mm fast intake manifold.. but for now what should i expect for dyno results? any opimons?

or et predictions
was running early 13's before most mods..

also my fast throttle body will bolt up to my stock manifold right?
thanks and let me kno what u think of my setup
frank

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Wouldn't waste the money on the SLP MAF, tuner, or LS6 clutch. Get a good SD tune and ditch the MAF after the cam goes in, and pick up an LS7 clutch instead. The 102mm TB won't mount up to a LS1/LS6 intake - it uses a square 4-bolt design, rather than the 3-bolt design the LS1/LS6 intakes use.

Definitely going to need some suspension work, too, and hopefully the 3.90s are going in a 9", not the 10-bolt.
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Wouldn't waste the money on the SLP MAF, tuner, or LS6 clutch. Get a good SD tune and ditch the MAF after the cam goes in, and pick up an LS7 clutch instead.

Definitely going to need some suspension work, too, and hopefully the 3.90s are going in a 9", not the 10-bolt.
i have to dissagree im very satisfied with the mass air man

hp predictions?
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Originally Posted by Element
Wouldn't waste the money on the SLP MAF, tuner, or LS6 clutch. Get a good SD tune and ditch the MAF after the cam goes in, and pick up an LS7 clutch instead. The 102mm TB won't mount up to a LS1/LS6 intake - it uses a square 4-bolt design, rather than the 3-bolt design the LS1/LS6 intakes use.

Definitely going to need some suspension work, too, and hopefully the 3.90s are going in a 9", not the 10-bolt.
suspension such as?
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Originally Posted by 02_Firehawk
i have to dissagree im very satisfied with the mass air man

hp predictions?
MAF on a stock setup is fine...why wouldn't you want to go with an SD tune, though, with what you're planning on doing? A handheld isn't going to do **** for that setup - some dyno time with a good speed shop tuner is a must.

I would imagine 430rwhp with a good tune, could be more. I suck at hp guessing.

Suspension, I'd say LCAs, LCA relocs, and a torque arm, and a torque arm relocation crossmember would be a good idea, too. That's with a 9"...for a 10-bolt, you'll want as little traction as possible.
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Originally Posted by Element
MAF on a stock setup is fine...why wouldn't you want to go with an SD tune, though, with what you're planning on doing? A handheld isn't going to do **** for that setup - some dyno time with a good speed shop tuner is a must.

I would imagine 430rwhp with a good tune, could be more. I suck at hp guessing.

Suspension, I'd say LCAs, LCA relocs, and a torque arm, and a torque arm relocation crossmember would be a good idea, too. That's with a 9"...for a 10-bolt, you'll want as little traction as possible.
no i def am gonna have to get a tune no doubt... hard to find a decent shop around chicago ..
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Originally Posted by 02_Firehawk
no i def am gonna have to get a tune no doubt... hard to find a decent shop around chicago ..
I would have to agree with the above posts. The MAF is a waste of money, so is the handheld, especially if you are getting a dyno tune, which is a must with such a large cam. With a good tune you should be right around 400rwhp.

Also check out Finish Line Performance. They are near chicago and have tons of experience with LS cars.
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MAF and Handheld is a waste of money period. Our maf's are good till 500rwhp or more no need to upgrade. Do the mods then get a dyno tune. Ls7 clutch and ls6 or fast intake.
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Ditch the MAF and tuner, spend the money on suspension or a new intake.
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I would just stick with your stock maf, throttle body and intake for now. The 102 is just too big for ya, I would just port your stock TB, get an underdrive pulley. Put the leftover $$$ into to a good dyno/street tune, you should be able to break the 400hp mark.
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Originally Posted by Titanws6
I would just stick with your stock maf, throttle body and intake for now. The 102 is just too big for ya, I would just port your stock TB, get an underdrive pulley. Put the leftover $$$ into to a good dyno/street tune, you should be able to break the 400hp mark.
102's been shown not to lose anything to the LS6 on bolt-on cars. Granted, it's not nearly as beneficial to those cars as it is H/C cars, but it makes more sense to buy one $1200 intake/TB that'll provide plenty of headroom, rather than buying a $350 LS6, then a $800 FAST 90 combo, then a $1200 102 combo, even given decent resale prices on the LS6 and FAST 90 stuff.

That said, I think there's more benefit to buying an LS6 and spending the rest on things like suspension and picking up a FAST when a cam goes in, than sticking a 102 on a stock-internals car.
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Originally Posted by Element
102's been shown not to lose anything to the LS6 on bolt-on cars. Granted, it's not nearly as beneficial to those cars as it is H/C cars, but it makes more sense to buy one $1200 intake/TB that'll provide plenty of headroom, rather than buying a $350 LS6, then a $800 FAST 90 combo, then a $1200 102 combo, even given decent resale prices on the LS6 and FAST 90 stuff.

That said, I think there's more benefit to buying an LS6 and spending the rest on things like suspension and picking up a FAST when a cam goes in, than sticking a 102 on a stock-internals car.
Yea, pretty sure he already has an ls6 intake on there.

Element, you should look into a Tick MC as well for your new clutch/tranny, man those things are worth every penny. They just went on sale too for $299-
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Like most of you said I think the fast102 is overkill for a stock 346.
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Originally Posted by 98z8uup
Like most of you said I think the fast102 is overkill for a stock 346.
Yes...even with heads I still think its overkill..find a 90/90 port it and call it a day..
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If you are looking for specific numbers base your car off of someone elses that make close to 400. Like most people said some of the parts you have listed are not worth the money

https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...no-thread.html
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With being in chi town I figured there would be a few good places... Modern-muscle does good work and they are up there.. If I had an lsx motor I would deff take my car there.. Damn u ltx lol
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If you haven't bought all this stuff yet, sit down and rethink what you are doing. You can spend your money on a different setup and probably be happier in the end. Ditch the maf, tuner, and ls6 clutch. Put the 102 tb in a box and save it until you buy a 102 intake and heads. That cam is big! I would say bigger gears, better clutch, and a dyno tune.




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